Carolina has almost $19M in dead money on the books

[The Huddler]

I enjoy being the target, I don't mind at all.

 

good stuff!

[CheeseCP]

So let me get this straight: when Gross speaks highly/positively of the organization, let's disregard that since oh he's just "saying the right things" cause he's a stand-up guy. But if he says anything you deem to be less than flattering about the organization/Gettleman in particular, then he's being genuine. Oh boy...you don't seem to have an agenda here at all!

You understand that even if Gettleman didn't alter his contract and he was still under contract this year, he could still retire right? That doesn't seem very "factual" for you to declare that Gross would be playing this year if not for the voided contract. You're assuming that he retired because the money wasn't good enough, rather than the hundred other reasons as to why he could have retired (health, spending time with family, heart not in it, pursuing other passions, etc.). All these "facts" you claim you're stating are really just your own shoddy deductions which support your agenda. Your posts are littered with a ton of hypotheticals. Seriously? Gross would not have retired if his contract wasn't voided? Get out of here with that man...if I told you that Gross would have retired either way, that's just as ridiculous and (in)valid a statement. Bottom line: no one knows what would have happened either way. Your hypothetical scenario is no more valid than anyone else's.

I don't agree, either, that Gross retired for any other reason than he felt it was the right time for him but I can see the reasoning behind putting less weight behind positive statements from players and coaches. Everyone is taught to be PC when dealing with the media so as to not give the opposition the slightest advantage. You also have the culture of internally dealing with issues (see Miami). All that said, when someone says something glowing about their organization, you wonder how genuine they are versus how much they are holding the company line. If someone says something negative or criticizing, you tend to perk up and listen a little more only because it's so rare.

[Anybodyhome]

I'm sure if you look hard enough Sean Gilbert is still getting paid, too....

[Mr. Scot]

What was Hurney thinking.

 

I'm gonna copyright that phrase so I make money everytime someone says it.

 

Should make for a good second income.

 

[Mr. Scot]

It's not a damn theory Gross basically said it himself. I can't find the exact quotes, but he said the reason that he didn't like Dave was because he asked him to take a paycut and he didn't feel like he should. Gross was going to play another year!! But when Dave Gettleman restructured his contract it made it void this offseason.

So what does that mean class? If Dave Gettleman doesn't force his PRO BOWL LT to take a paycut, he's our starting LT today.

 

You can't find the quotes because they don't exist.

 

The video of Jordan's press conference can be found here (link).

 

His comments about Dave Gettleman start at 11 minutes in, last around 15 seconds and are as follows.

 

(After thanking Marty Hurney for drafting him) "Dave Gettleman too.  Appreciate that.  I think you're doin' a great job, man.  I didn't like you very much last offseason but (laughter) I got over that."

 

That's all there was.  No further exposition was made then or later.

 

The rest exists only in your imagination.

[Mr. Scot]

He could retire but his own words were that he planned to play this season until his contract was set to void this offseason.

 

Wrong again.

 

Just after the nine minute mark in his press conference, Gross states that the team wanted him back this season but he decided it was time to retire.  He explains that he wanted to retire at a time when he felt like the team was in "good hands" and that he now believes that they'll be good for a long time to come, even without him.  He reiterates the point again near the end of the presser and adds that he has "nothing but fond memories".

 

Your "facts" are a tad lacking.

 

(and don't bother with some stupid, useless comeback like "well, he's just saying that")

 

[iamhubby1]

You gotta love the guy. Even after he is shown the door, he still totes the company line. lol

Jordan has always been pretty much straight up with the press. If he were unhappy he would say it. He may use the right words to express it. But he would get his point across.

[AceBoogie]

Wrong again.

Just after the nine minute mark in his press conference, Gross states that the team wanted him back this season but he decided it was time to retire. He explains that he wanted to retire at a time when he felt like the team was in "good hands" and that he now believes that they'll be good for a long time to come, even without him. He reiterates the point again near the end of the presser and adds that he has "nothing but fond memories".

Your "facts" are a tad lacking.

(and don't bother with some stupid, useless comeback like "well, he's just saying that")

I'm not mistaken, I just don't have the time or care to google to find the many articles on what he said. It's a fact that the restructure voided his contract this offseason correct?

[AceBoogie]

You gotta love the guy. Even after he is shown the door, he still totes the company line. lol

Jordan has always been pretty much straight up with the press. If he were unhappy he would say it. He may use the right words to express it. But he would get his point across.

He did say that he did not like Dave Gettleman at first. His words not mine. Anyone here want to dispute that? Why didn't he like him? Maybe because he made him take a paycut?? Why did he get over it? Because he's ducking rich, you'd get over the poo too.

[updownsigma]

You can't find the quotes because they don't exist.

The video of Jordan's press conference can be found here (link).

His comments about Dave Gettleman start at 11 minutes in, last around 15 seconds and are as follows.

(After thanking Marty Hurney for drafting him) "Dave Gettleman too. Appreciate that. I think you're doin' a great job, man. I didn't like you very much last offseason but (laughter) I got over that."

That's all there was. No further exposition was made then or later.

The rest exists only in your imagination.

Not to mention, if Gross really didn't like Gman, I doubt he'd joke about disliking him in the past.

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[PandaPancake]

How does one tote the company line?

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[iamhubby1]

He did say that he did not like Dave Gettleman at first. His words not mine. Anyone here want to dispute that? Why didn't he like him? Maybe because he made him take a paycut?? Why did he get over it? Because he's ducking rich, you'd get over the poo too.

Um, I know you are trying to make a point. But I'll be dammed if I can figure it out.

Are you mad at someone? Cuz it kinda sounds like it from the tone of your post. I just have no idea who/what has you all fired up.

If Gross didn't want to retire, he could have made that clear when the contract was negotiated. Maybe, just maybe, he took the deal because he actually was ready to hang it up. Until I actually talk to him, I have no idea what was going through his mind.

You can be all up in arms if you wish. To me, it is over. We will do what we can to be competitive. I can live with that.

[iamhubby1]

How does one tote the company line?

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You use your toe to keep things aligned. Kinda like...ah hellz, I got nothing.

[AceBoogie]

won't allow me to post