Jon Beason carted off field during non contact exercise.

[propagandamachine]

He's done :) boy we lucked out

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[caatfan]

He's done :) boy we lucked out

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Done for the day, yeah. Beyond that, remains to be seen. 

[SevyDamus]

Not really.

He had already been benched before he was traded, and he was getting paid way too much money to be a bench warmer. Add in the fact that he didn't wanna be here if he wasn't starting at MLB. Good as Beason was, he wasn't what he used to be, and there was no way he was getting that job back with Luke in there.

So you wind up with a 7th round pick, a little cap relief and a big contract off the books in exchange for a depth player. That's not really what I'd consider a bad deal.

I've wished him all the success in the world, but the team made the right decision.

I only hope this injury isn't severe.

Yeah, but he still costing us in 8 mill dead money. So for getting a full time starter we could've maybe got a 5th.

[Chaos]

Love me some Beason, get well!

[Thal]

Just trying to get the day off.

[rayzor]

Yeah, but he still costing us in 8 mill dead money. So for getting a full time starter we could've maybe got a 5th.

 

they weren't getting a full time starter. they were getting a guy who had spent the last two years on IR and who didn't seem to be healthy and who was a back up for all three LB positions and had shown himself to be a liability in the limited action he had seen...so much so that, iirc, they didn't even give him a jersey his last game here and was only on the field for one snap the game before that.

 

sure, he became a starter, but they really didn't have any competition there to begin with and he pretty much surprised everyone by not just staying healthy, but performing at a fairly high level.

 

if there was more certainty from us or the giants about how he would do after going there, yes...maybe we could have gotten a 5th rounder. the fact is that nobody was certain what the giants were going to be getting from beason and that's why we got a 7th for him. that's what we could get for a guy in his situation. we weren't going to be getting more for him and he likely wasn't going to be getting a starting gig anywhere else. it was a win/win/win. the giants won because they got a starting MLB, beason won because he got a chance to start again, and we won because we got something for a guy that was a backup LB who was sitting on our bench and wasn't seeing any play time.

[jdpanther5]

Nobody pays the kind of money Hurney gave Beason to a backup.

But we still paid him almost the same amount to play elsewhere, is that really any better?

$14m as a backup

$13m to go away

Kinda prefer the former.

Cap money....yes.

Dollars out the door...no.

too many of you only focus on the Cap Hit when talking about a player being cut. The cap his is a non-cash book transaction. What the team really saves is the $ going out the door to pay the guy's salary.

That makes it worse... the cap and payroll are the same amounts, just amortized differently. The trade saved $1m in cap and $1m in actual dollars. All the dead money has already been paid, so there's no recouping that.

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[Pox 08]

Man, I hope Beason is okay.       He remains one of my favorite Panthers.

 

 

 

 

Hopefully it's nothing serious and he can continue to prepare to lead the fierce return to power of the Giants defense this season.

[TheRumGone]

But we still paid him almost the same amount to play elsewhere, is that really any better?

$14m as a backup

$13m to go away

Kinda prefer the former.

That makes it worse... the cap and payroll are the same amounts, just amortized differently. The trade saved $1m in cap and $1m in actual dollars. All the dead money has already been paid, so there's no recouping that.

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We did Jon a favor for the leader he was on and off the field.

It really doesn't get much harder than that to understand. He wanted a chance elsewhere we obliged out of immense respect.

We saved one million, just an added bonus.

[CatMan72]

Damn... hope he's ok.

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[Paa Langfart]

I still think g man gave his old team a discount price for Beason - did we even shop the guy anywhere else?  Tell me if we shopped him now ( healthy) we couldnt get a 3rd rounder from the cowboys.

[MV%doe]

The beason that played for the gaints would smash oncoming blockers, beat the RB to the hole, make plays in the passing lanes, and was over all faster than the panthers beason. I was sad to see the difference in effort form panthers to giants. Beason would have been the last player on the team that would give a half @ss effort, don't know why he did so. Behind the field must have been rough.

[TheRumGone]

The beason that played for the gaints would smash oncoming blockers, beat the RB to the hole, make plays in the passing lanes, and was over all faster than the panthers beason. I was sad to see the difference in effort form panthers to giants. Beason would have been the last player on the team that would give a half @ss effort, don't know why he did so. Behind the field must have been rough.

Wtf is this

[Mr. Scot]

But we still paid him almost the same amount to play elsewhere, is that really any better?

$14m as a backup

$13m to go away

Kinda prefer the former.

That makes it worse... the cap and payroll are the same amounts, just amortized differently. The trade saved $1m in cap and $1m in actual dollars. All the dead money has already been paid, so there's no recouping that.

 

You're not looking at the salary he would have made had we kept him.  That;s the money that goes away once he's traded.

 

As far as the comparison, money that's being paid to a guy who isn't playing or is playing poorly (which is what Beason was) is pretty much just as useless as 'dead money'.

 

The reality is that Beason wasn't what he used to be and he was never gonna be that again here.

 

 

 

Yeah, but he still costing us in 8 mill dead money. So for getting a full time starter we could've maybe got a 5th.

 

Rayzor covered this pretty well.

 

When teams assess trade value, they don't generally take into account how good you used to be.

 

For a guy who barely played at all for two straight seasons and played so badly that he got benched this season, a 7th rounder is a pretty fair deal.  The position switch helped him a lot, but based on who he was and where he was at the time of the trade, it wasn't a 'discount'.