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[Kyle82]

The Washington Dickheads has a nice ring to it.

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[Growl]

the majority of native americans have more pressing concerns. but regardless of if the majority of them are deeply offended, the very first instance of public protest to the name was by a native american activism group in 1968. there is no debating that there are native americans that are insulted by this name, and a decent portion of them.

there is also no debating that the word redskin is an ethnic slur.

given that there are some people insulted by the use of a racial slur as a team name, what reason, exactly, do you have for suggesting it not be changed?

let's say 10% of native americans find it offensive. is that enough for you? what's your "offended threshold" for when a racial slur becomes inappropriate for use in a fuging team name>

so you're suggesting we change absolutely anything that offends people, no matter how insignificant the cry? lol

If 90% of native americans either support/are neutral on the name, they are disregarded? should we apply this to everything?

[rodeo]

Also a racial slur not because were the same color as crackers. Think more like whips and slaves.

 

It has nothing to do with slaves or the color of crackers. Why don't you look poo up?

 

There are multiple explanations of the etymology of "cracker", most dating its origin to the 18th century or earlier.^[3]

 

One theory holds that the term derives from the "cracking" of whips by rustics to guide their cattle and other draft animals.^[4][5][6][7]

 

Another whip-derived theory is based on Florida's "cracker cowboys" of the 19th and early 20th centuries; distinct from the Spanish vaquero and the Western cowboy. Cracker cowboys did not use lassos to herd or capture cattle. Their primary tools were cow whips and dogs.^[8]

 

The term "cracker" was in use during Elizabethan times to describe braggarts. The original root of this is the Middle English word crack meaning "entertaining conversation" (One may be said to "crack" a joke; a witty remark is a "wisecrack"). This term and the Irish spelling "craic" are still in use in Ireland]. It is documented in Shakespeare's King John (1595): "What cracker is this... that deafes our eares / With this abundance of superfluous breath?"

 

An alternative theory holds that the term comes from the common diet of poor whites. The 1911 edition of Encyclopedia Britannica supposes that the term derives from the cracked (kernels of) corn which formed the staple food of this class of people.^[9]

[DaveThePanther2008]

Well maybe we should start a petition to remove the Vikings because they were known for rape and pillaging. .

 

Or maybe the Raiders, Buccaneers and Pirates because they lawless men.

 

Let's get rid of the Saints and Padres because not everyone is of the Christian faith.

 

We could go on and on.   In fact, I saw a list of reasons why just about every team shouldn't have their current name.

 

Get over it.  It is a name.  Do you know the majority of American Indians survey did not have an issue with the name.   it is a minority making an issue and they probably don't even watch football.

[SZ James (banned)]

I'll start caring when a significant portion of the Native American community starts actually being offended, rather than a few isolated groups government officials are blowing up to show everyone how "cool and progressive" they are. This is a fabricated issue by people who want there to be a problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Redskins_name_controversy#Native_Americans_and_organizations_opposed

The following groups have passed resolutions or issued statements regarding their opposition to the name of the Washington NFL team:

Tribes

Affiliated Tribes of Northwest Indians[148]

Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma[148]

Comanche Nation of Oklahoma[148]

The Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation (Washington)[148]

Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians (Michigan)

Hoh Indian Tribe[149]

Inter Tribal Council of Arizona[150]

Inter-Tribal Council of the Five Civilized Tribes[151]

Juaneño Band of Mission Indians (California)[148]

Little River Band of Ottawa Indians (Michigan)

Match-E-Be-Nash-She-Wish Band of Pottawatomi Indians, Gun Lake Tribe (Michigan)[152]

Menominee Tribe of Indians (Wisconsin)[148]

Oneida Indian Nation (New York)[153]

Oneida Tribe of Indians of Wisconsin[148]

Navajo Nation Council[92]

Penobscot Nation[154]

Poarch Band of Creek Indians[155]

Samish Indian Nation (Washington)[156]

Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians (Michigan)[157]

Shoshone-Bannock Tribes (Idaho)[158]

Standing Rock Sioux Tribe (North Dakota)

The Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation (North Dakota)[159]

United South and Eastern Tribes (USET)[160]

Organizations

Advocates for American Indian Children (California)

American Indian Mental Health Association (Minnesota)

American Indian Movement[161]

American Indian Opportunities Industrialization Center of San Bernardino County

American Indian Student Services at the Ohio State University

American Indian High Education Consortium

American Indian College Fund

Americans for Indian Opportunity

Association on American Indian Affairs

Buncombe County Native American Inter-tribal Association (North Carolina)

Capitol Area Indian Resources (Sacramento, CA)

Concerned American Indian Parents (Minnesota)

Council for Indigenous North Americans (University of Southern Maine)

Eagle and Condor Indigenous Peoples’ Alliance

First Peoples Worldwide

Fontana Native American Indian Center, Inc. (California)

Governor’s Interstate Indian Council

Greater Tulsa Area Indian Affairs Commission

Great Lakes Inter-Tribal Council (Wisconsin)

HONOR – Honor Our Neighbors Origins and Rights

Kansas Association for Native American Education

Maryland Commission on Indian Affairs

Medicine Wheel Inter-tribal Association (Louisiana)

Minnesota Indian Education Association

National Congress of American Indians (NCAI)

National Indian Child Welfare Association

National Indian Education Association

National Indian Youth Council

National Native American Law Student Association

Native American Caucus of the California Democratic Party

Native American Finance Officers Association (NAFOA)[162]

Native American Journalists Association[163]

Native American Indian Center of Central Ohio

Native American Journalists Association

Native American Rights Fund (NARF)

Native Voice Network

Nebraska Commission on Indian Affairs

Nottawaseppi Huron Band of Potawatomi (Michigan)

North Carolina Commission of Indian Affairs

North Dakota Indian Education Association

Office of Native American Ministry, Diocese of Grand Rapids (Michigan)

Ohio Center for Native American Affairs

San Bernardino/Riverside Counties Native American Community Council

Seminole Nation of Oklahoma

Society of Indian Psychologists of the Americas

Southern California Indian Center

St. Cloud State University – American Indian Center

Tennessee Chapter of the National Coalition for the Preservation of Indigenous Cultures

Tennessee Commission of Indian Affairs

Tennessee Native Veterans Society

Tulsa Indian Coalition Against Racism[164]

The Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation

Unified Coalition for American Indian Concerns, Virginia

The United Indian Nations of Oklahoma

Virginia American Indian Cultural Resource Center

Wisconsin Indian Education Association

WIEA “Indian” Mascot and Logo Taskforce (Wisconsin)

Woodland Indian Community Center-Lansing (Michigan)

Youth “Indian” Mascot and Logo Task force (Wisconsin)

Individuals

These prominent Native Americans have put their opposition to the Redskins' name on the public record:

Sherman Alexie (author, Spokane)[165]

Notah Begay (Navajo, PGA pro golfer) called the Redskins' name "a very clear example of institutionalized degradation of an ethnic minority."[166]

Clyde Bellecourt (Ojibwe, co-founder of the American Indian Movement)[167]

Bob Burns (Blackfeet elder)[168]

Vine Deloria, Jr. (Sioux, historian/author)[169]

Ben Nighthorse Campbell (Northern Cheyenne, U.S. Senator)[170]

Kevin Gover (Pawnee, director of The Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of the American Indian)[171]

Suzan Shown Harjo (Cheyenne/Hodulgee Muscogee, author/activist)[172]

Litefoot (Cherokee/Chichimeca, rapper) ironically celebrates Native American team names as "recreational genocide" on the track 'Stereotipik'.[173]

Russell Means (Oglala Lakota, activist/actor)[174]

Billy Mills (Sioux, Olympic gold medal winner)[175]

Ted Nolan (First Nations Ojibway, NHL player and coach)[176]

Buford Rolin (Creek tribal chairman)[177]

Shoni Schimmel (Umatilla, Louisville Cardinals guard, class of 2015)[178]

Charlene Teters (Spokane, artist/lecturer)[179]

W. Richard West Jr. (Cheyenne) - President of the Autry National Center in Los Angeles: Redskin is "an openly derogatory term. It always is and it always has been.” West also characterizes the Original American's Foundation as an "attempt to divert attention from the fact that his team’s nickname is coming under increasing heat from people who think it’s an offensive racial term."[180]

[Guest Irv]

black panthers aren't technically a real species we should change our teams name. 

[PandaPancake]

It has nothing to do with slaves or the color of crackers. Why don't you look poo up?

 

There are multiple explanations of the etymology of "cracker", most dating its origin to the 18th century or earlier.^[3]

 

One theory holds that the term derives from the "cracking" of whips by rustics to guide their cattle and other draft animals.^[4][5][6][7]

 

Another whip-derived theory is based on Florida's "cracker cowboys" of the 19th and early 20th centuries; distinct from the Spanish vaquero and the Western cowboy. Cracker cowboys did not use lassos to herd or capture cattle. Their primary tools were cow whips and dogs.^[8]

 

The term "cracker" was in use during Elizabethan times to describe braggarts. The original root of this is the Middle English word crack meaning "entertaining conversation" (One may be said to "crack" a joke; a witty remark is a "wisecrack"). This term and the Irish spelling "craic" are still in use in Ireland]. It is documented in Shakespeare's King John (1595): "What cracker is this... that deafes our eares / With this abundance of superfluous breath?"

 

An alternative theory holds that the term comes from the common diet of poor whites. The 1911 edition of Encyclopedia Britannica supposes that the term derives from the cracked (kernels of) corn which formed the staple food of this class of people.^[9]

 

 

I had no idea defending a racial slur was that important to you. Believe it or not looking up racial slurs isn't on the top of my priority list. Neither is plagiarizing Wikipedia.

[rodeo]

I think I've just found the stupidest person on the internet.

[xerxes]

black panthers aren't technically a real species we should change our teams name. 

If our actual name was the Black Panthers. That would be pretty sweet.

 

http://libcom.org/files/images/history/black%20panthers.jpg

 

Pretty sure it would give half our fanbase a heart attack though. 

[PandaPancake]

I think I've just found the stupidest person on the internet.

Good. Go tell your friend.

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[Kakarot]

It's racist and the name should be changed.

[Donald LaFell]

People were actually worried about the black panthers using our logo when we first got the team.

[The Huddler]

I think they were "studies" financed by the team. I can conduct a study to back any narrative I choose. I just want Washington fans to be miserable, is that too much to ask?

No, and if they are miserable then it makes this scenario better. I'd rather have the cowboys or steelers go through this

[KendrickPanther]

Everyone tries to make these issues black and white. Everyone tries to label people or words. These sorts of social issues come down to two things: intent and perception. If someone uses a slur you don't like they might intend it one way, you perceive it another way. And the color of the person saying the word changes your perception of what they said.

 

What was the intent of the person that named the Washington franchise? Was it meant to insult or meant to be a marketable nickname? The Washington franchise was founded in 1932, legends of Cowboys and Indians were a big part of pop culture at the time. Maybe the name was meant to appeal to boys.

 

The next part of intent is every fan and owner that supported the franchise. Were those people Washington football fans to laugh at Native Americans? I don't think so. Washington football games aren't like a Native American hate meet up. It's just a beloved mascot that fans grew up with.

 

And then there is perception. Some people see racial undertones in every thing. Some people are oblivious. Perception varies person to person.

 

My perception is we get too caught up on words. My grandfather worked in a metal shop all his life and guys would call each other slurs. It was a way to bond. It wasn't intended or perceived as an insult. Hank Stram would call all of his players rats. It was a term of endearment to Hank, he wanted a team full of rats. Hank also fielded the first African American Middle Linebacker at a time when society thought black players didn't possess intelligence or leadership.

 

Denying jobs, denying education, seizure of property, and denying the right to vote are the types of racism we should be worried about. Words should be on the bottom of the list yet they garner to most attention.

 

I saw an Actor profusely apologizing for using a derogatory term towards homosexuals the other day. The people that should be apologizing are the voters banning gay marriage. That is action, not words.