The Redskins Commercial the NFL does not want us to see

[pantherclaw]

Let's play pretend.

Say Walmart changes their slogan from "poo on your employees while pretending you wouldn't literally murder your customers and take their money if you could get it legalized." err wait, that's not right.

Okay, they change it from "Save money, live better" to "Pantherclaw is a dumb, inbred piece of poo,"

Now, you don't refer to yourself in that manner, so if a nationally recognized corporation did, that won't bother you right? Millions of people thinking "Heh, pantherclaw boned his sister" isn't going to make you want them to change their brand?

As long as they tell you that they don't INTEND for it to sound offensive, and that you should be thrilled that you're being represented by a billion dollar corporation, it's cool, right?

Because if it would bother you, then I guess you're just a big, pussy liberal.

no one has given a fug for 80 years.

now all the sudden people care?

There much bigger issues to resolved tha a name.of a football team.

[KendrickPanther]

I personally don't think the Bullets should have changed their name either. There is no connection between basketball team names and inner city violence. Did changing the name accomplish anything? Did violence stop? Did kids start pretending to be Wizards instead of bullets?

[xerxes]

A lot of white guilt in this thread. This is such a waste of time for a "I feel better about myself for supporting this issue" that is the current media flavor of the month. Y'all have fun with your protests and complaining.

A lot of white privilege in this thread.

[cgarsmoker]

I'll start caring when a significant portion of the Native American community starts actually being offended, rather than a few isolated groups government officials are blowing up to show everyone how "cool and progressive" they are. This is a fabricated issue by people who want there to be a problem.

How do you know they aren't offended? Show me a poll or something showing Native Americans saying they aren't offended and I might believe your statement. It seems you may not care for the political correctness of the issue but I'm not sure you're in a position to speak for an entire race of people.

[cgarsmoker]

The most appropriate name would be the Washington Lobbyists.....They're the symbolic with Washington nowadays.

[fjblair]

Let's play pretend.

 

 

Say Walmart changes their slogan from "poo on your employees while pretending you wouldn't literally murder your customers and take their money if you could get it legalized." err wait, that's not right.

 

 

Okay, they change it from "Save money, live better" to "Pantherclaw is a dumb, inbred piece of poo,"

 

Now, you don't refer to yourself in that manner, so if a nationally recognized corporation did, that won't bother you right? Millions of people thinking "Heh, pantherclaw boned his sister" isn't going to make you want them to change their brand?

 

As long as they tell you that they don't INTEND for it to sound offensive, and that you should be thrilled that you're being represented by a billion dollar corporation, it's cool, right?

 

Because if it would bother you, then I guess you're just a big, pussy liberal.

 

Not even remotely close to being a relevant analogy.

 

I vote for Washington Shams.

 

[Fan01]

Keep the logo and call yourself the Washington Warriors, Washington Natives, or something along those lines.

[BANE]

Like others I agree the name is offensive, but this country needs some offensive as there's far too much PC bulls**t as is. If some group has to "suffer" for it, so be it. And yes, using the terms "suffering" in this this issue is a giant, gargantuan stretch. Real suffering looks like the genocide in Darfur, not hurt feelings by a group of people in Washington.

[Zaximus]

It is racist and needs to be changed.  Everyone is desensitized when it comes to Native Americans, but they are real people who had a rough time, probably as bad as slavery to them.  They aren't just on TV or in the history books.   They still have it pretty rough.  I agree we have to move on as a country, but naming pro sports teams after slurs isn't a good way to do this.  

[rodeo]

Like others I agree the name is offensive, but this country needs some offensive as there's far too much PC bulls**t as is. If some group has to "suffer" for it, so be it. And yes, using the terms "suffering" in this this issue is a giant, gargantuan stretch. Real suffering looks like the genocide in Darfur, not hurt feelings by a group of people in Washington.

 

 

Look how tough anti-PC people are when they get to volunteer other groups for suffering.

[Toundra]

I feel both sad and happy when i see indians.

70.000 Vs 1.000.000, we fought well but we have failed, sorry.

 

 

[carolina-chuck]

Washington Whiteskins!!!!

[KillerKat]

There are Native American schools that call their teams Redskins. The term is used affectionately by some natives, similar to the way the N-word is used by some African-Americans. In the only recent poll to ask native people about the subject, 90 percent of respondents did not consider the term offensive, although many question the cultural credentials of the respondents.

All of which underscores the oft-overlooked diversity within Native America.

In 2004, the National Annenberg Election Survey asked 768 people who identified themselves as Indian whether they found the name “Washington Redskins” offensive. Almost 90 percent said it did not bother them.

But the Indian activist Suzan Shown Harjo, who has filed a lawsuit seeking to strip the “Redskins” trademark from the football team, said the poll neglected to ask some crucial questions.

“Are you a tribal person? What is your nation? What is your tribe? Would you say you are culturally or socially or politically native?” Harjo asked. Those without such connections cannot represent native opinions, she said.

Uh wtf? So not all Natives should be allowed to vote. Only your small group.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/how-many-native-americans-think-redskins-is-a-slur/

What I find funny is that the people that find it most offensive are white people. The only people that can determine if a word is offensive to them are the very people the word is directed towards.

When a majority of Natives find it offensive, change it. Until then, the name stays. I still think a nationwide poll only for Natives will settle the issue.

[Jangler]

I think she meant to try and make sure all the people are truly Native Americans. How many people over the years have said to you that they are 1/16th <your tribe here>?

 

Uh wtf? So not all Natives should be allowed to vote. Only your small group.
 

 

 

 

I don't think most really give a sh!t. Seems like Native Americans know there are bigger and better things to get upset over. But that just might be the white in me talking...not the human.