Cam Newton BELIEVES in the USMNT

[Toundra]

no you are way the fug off.  stupid?  child please, tell me one soccer player that can physically compete with an elite athlete such as Cam or Lebron.  It is not like saying Ronaldo would be a great WR in the NFL because he isnt even close in comparison, at least physically.  Just go back to sleep or something little chaplin. 

 

Compare NFL to Rugby, not soccer sissies.  ;)

[Toundra]

Physically compete? What, bench-pressing fuging trucks?

Sorry, you can't declare that only one sport produces athletes.. soccer and football require very different attributes to be successful. You remind me of my high school football coach who thought I was a "foot fairy" because I played soccer (kicked for the high school football team)..

 

Acting is still soccer main atribute. ;)

[Peppers90 NC]

Compare NFL to Rugby, not soccer sissies.  ;)

i used basketball players too, yes rugby is closer to football obviously.  but for some reason, only the extreme soccer geeks think that other guys out there couldnt be good at it because they chose some other sport first instead of their beloved game.  yes i could be wrong, but i find it harder to call my theory dumb and argue it rather than at least acknowledge the possibilities. 

[MCC]

i used basketball players too, yes rugby is closer to football obviously. but for some reason, only the extreme soccer geeks think that other guys out there couldnt be good at it because they chose some other sport first instead of their beloved game. yes i could be wrong, but i find it harder to call my theory dumb and argue it rather than at least acknowledge the possibilities.

I grew up playing soccer and it is my favorite sport, but world class athletes growing up in soccer would definitely help the US. It's obvious.

And while there are certain parts of your argument that are true, but not all. It takes a special kind of athlete to be gifted at soccer and not all could be good because they are good athletes in other sports.

Ones who have intelligence as well as great hand eye coordination to go along with extreme athleticism would be ideal.

Athletes such as LBJ and Russell Westbrook, Kyrie Erving, etc, come to mind in basketball.

Cornerbacks and wide receivers in football. Players like Clowney and JJ Watt, while elite in football, would never excel in my opinion.

A player like Yasiel Puig in baseball, while not American, would excel in soccer, because of his extreme athleticism and hand eye coordination.

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[MCC]

Now people like Toundra are just annoying and should be ignored.

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[WadeWilson]

So, what you are saying, is that if the top athletes grew up in a soccer culture, they still wouldnt be good at it why?  because they are stronger, bigger and faster with probably better footwork than what you can even imagine?  You silly guys and your soccer pride doubting the best athletes in the world.  I put my money on the best athletes, IF they cared about soccer.  You soccer geeks think so highly of your sport that you think only a certain fortunate number of individuals are skilled enough to play.  I can't believe it is so hard to imagine, but again the soccer crowd would hate to think that the sport could even be better.

 

I think you are missing the point - which is common with football players.

 

You think the US is the only country that produces top athletes because the sport demands they be bigger? And all football players faster? Come on dude. The world's not flat.. take a moment. Use tylenol for headaches.

 

I'm not sure where you got that I implied that if soccer was the bigger sport here in the States all our 'big talented' super athletes would suck - but the beauty of soccer is that you don't have to be Cam Newton or Lebron to be successful.. Messi is 5'7", Neymar is 5'9", Ronaldo is 6'1" and Ibrahimovic is 6'5". All of them, like Cam and Lebron, are world class athletes.

 

If you don't consider someone an athlete unless they play football - or can squat a fuging train.. well then.. there's no arguing with some people.

[Peppers90 NC]

I grew up playing soccer and it is my favorite sport, but world class athletes growing up in soccer would definitely help the US. It's obvious.

And while there are certain parts of your argument that are true, but not all. It takes a special kind of athlete to be gifted at soccer and not all could be good because they are good athletes in other sports.

Ones who have intelligence as well as great hand eye coordination to go along with extreme athleticism would be ideal.

Athletes such as LBJ and Russell Westbrook, Kyrie Erving, etc, come to mind in basketball.

Cornerbacks and wide receivers in football. Players like Clowney and JJ Watt, while elite in football, would never excel in my opinion.

A player like Yasiel Puig in baseball, while not American, would excel in soccer, because of his extreme athleticism and hand eye coordination.

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I never meant to make it sound like just because an athlete is good at basketball or football that they would excel in soccer.  But when you take the top guys, who have intelligence, vision, impeccable footwork, hand-eye coordination along with all the physical attributes, I just find it very hard to argue the possibility that they could be great soccer players too if they started young instead of their respective sports.  The truth is, like I said a few posts back, that our culture doesnt value soccer like almost every other so these guys play the sports that will make them famous here.

[WadeWilson]

Acting is still soccer main atribute. ;)

 

Yeah, that part friggin sucks.. but it's looked down on now more than it used to be.

 

You think the NFL doesn't have some actors? The Tuck Rule? A 350lb OL falling on his ass to draw an offsides rule? PI near the end-zone? ;)

[MCC]

Yeah, that part friggin sucks.. but it's looked down on now more than it used to be.

You think the NFL doesn't have some actors? The Tuck Rule? A 350lb OL falling on his ass to draw an offsides rule? PI near the end-zone? ;)

The NBA is just as bad as soccer with flopping these days, too.

Although, you don't see too many American players faking a foul/injury in soccer. It's more of a foreign thing.

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[Peppers90 NC]

Yeah, that part friggin sucks.. but it's looked down on now more than it used to be.

 

You think the NFL doesn't have some actors? The Tuck Rule? A 350lb OL falling on his ass to draw an offsides rule? PI near the end-zone? ;)

basketball too

[Toundra]

Yeah, that part friggin sucks.. but it's looked down on now more than it used to be.

 

You think the NFL doesn't have some actors? The Tuck Rule? A 350lb OL falling on his ass to draw an offsides rule? PI near the end-zone? ;)

 

This is very possible but

1 they are at least better actors or

2 they are not many.

[The Huddler]

FIFA is corrupt garbage.

[Yaboychris28]

We are loaded with talented and young players but they are very unproven, Morgan never played with the squad, well 4 minutes..

Giroud is already whining, he would be disapointed if he is not a starter.. Antoine Griezmann could be the starter next to Benzema..

And keep in mind, they may never find the way out of the bus. :lol:

And we have no leader.. Since Belgium stole our leader :P

who is we? Do you not live in America?

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[Peppers90 NC]

I think you are missing the point - which is common with football players.

 

You think the US is the only country that produces top athletes because the sport demands they be bigger? And all football players faster? Come on dude. The world's not flat.. take a moment. Use tylenol for headaches.

 

I'm not sure where you got that I implied that if soccer was the bigger sport here in the States all our 'big talented' super athletes would suck - but the beauty of soccer is that you don't have to be Cam Newton or Lebron to be successful.. Messi is 5'7", Neymar is 5'9", Ronaldo is 6'1" and Ibrahimovic is 6'5". All of them, like Cam and Lebron, are world class athletes.

 

If you don't consider someone an athlete unless they play football - or can squat a fuging train.. well then.. there's no arguing with some people.

i think you may have missed my points.  i will simplify by asking two questions:

 

1)  Do you think the USMNT represents our nations most athletic players?

 

2)  Do you believe that all the great national teams are filled with their respective nations most athletic players?

 

I agree you dont have to be 6'6 245 and run faster and be more athletic than every other soccer player in the world to be successful, but do you believe that wouldnt help?  It would be fun to see our top athletes compete against those guys but I think we would keep up if not be better.  We will likely never find out so we will never know for sure.  I am just saying that if soccer was our #1 sport, we would be waayyyyyyyyy better than we are now in the World Cup because our team we have our best athletes on the team rather than these 3rd tier guys.