PFT questions Brady's place among the top quarterbacks

[TheRed]

I'm out of the house right now but when I get back I'll find some film breakdown for you.

 

This thread has veered toward Manning, but the only reason I brought him up was the idea of currently having him in the top 5, but not Brady. I am not trying to say that Peyton does not belong in the top 5. I think sometimes people unfortunately let their disdain for a player blind them.

[wingswithsting]

I also want to add that Brady has always been overrated. His team gets away with a lot of holding up front, and don't dare hit the crybaby, or he will cry and get you flagged for roughing the passer. His coach is a proven cheater, but yet his coach is a great Coach. The system and help from cheating made Brady. Go take a look, Matt Cassel put up very Brady like numbers in the year Brady was injured. Then look what he has NOT done since leaving New England, and that is what Brady would give you elsewhere

[PandaPancake]

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[Razeyfingers]

Poor Tommy Boy no more updownupdownleftrightleftrightABABstart. Man Contra is a lot harder when you play it without the cheats.

[t96]

This thread has veered toward Manning, but the only reason I brought him up was the idea of currently having him in the top 5, but not Brady. I am not trying to say that Peyton does not belong in the top 5. I think sometimes people unfortunately let their disdain for a player blind them.

Me currently living in Boston, I probably have the most hatred of Brady of anyone on this forum. That being said, Brady is 100% a top 4 probably top 3 QB along with Rodgers/Manning and some could argue Brees ahead of him. But having watched Patriots games and especially their playoff games, Brady missed passes that 5 years ago he would've made in his sleep. Peyton this year showed that he hasn't regressed at all from his prime, and all I'm saying is that Brady has started to get a little worse. To say that he is washed up is absurd, but like I said he is definitely losing some of his touch.

[Razeyfingers]

Me currently living in Boston, I probably have the most hatred of Brady of anyone on this forum. That being said, Brady is 100% a top 4 probably top 3 QB along with Rodgers/Manning and some could argue Brees ahead of him. But having watched Patriots games and especially their playoff games, Brady missed passes that 5 years ago he would've made in his sleep. Peyton this year showed that he hasn't regressed at all from his prime, and all I'm saying is that Brady has started to get a little worse. To say that he is washed up is absurd, but like I said he is definitely losing some of his touch.

 

Yeah man, he's not washed up. Im not sure why writers are so quick to want to write this kind of article up but it has been pretty seldom with regards to Brady. I will say though, other quarterbacks his age tend to be playing to their caliber. I cant agree with the top 3QB stuff unless I was to see him produce without the "benefits" he's had so far. How can people thrash Peyton and be so forgiving of Tommy. Peyton is 4 years older too right? Brees is older as well. . AND smaller. Brees should be less durable than Brady and in fact has had surgeries that put much more at risk of losing his game than him. Manning had neck surgery for the love of God, WOW. Even Favre (at 41? 42?) couldve played a couple more years with minor issues to his arm.

 

Perhaps we should take a look back at those games 5 years ago and assess whether not it was Brady's arm was working the magic or simply a very well designed offense. An offense genius in taking advantage of their skills position players' talents and setting up defenses with a perfect mix of pass/run. An offense with BIG ambition to win, and a "if you aint cheatin you aint tryin" attitude.