Most Irreplaceable Defenders - Kuechly #2

[Peppers90 NC]

maybe Sherman is unquestionably the best CB in the league and he plays at such a high level that makes him the most irreplaceable?  

[Peppers90 NC]

That would not be equivalent. Equivalent would be if you were to say say Calvin Johnson is good because Detroit's WR corp is good. With the bold you're making a different argument.

 

Sherman takes away half the field. That's just one player eliminating an entire half of a field. That gives DCs a lot of room to maneuver.

i get your point, but dont you think when you say half the field, that's a little more than exaggerated?  if a team lined 3 wr's up to his side, you are suggesting he can cover all 3 of them?

[Peppers90 NC]

or even a traditional pro set, he could cover a WR and TE that are on his half of the field?

[updownsigma]

That would not be equivalent. Equivalent would be if you were to say say Calvin Johnson is good because Detroit's WR corp is good. With the bold you're making a different argument.

 

Sherman takes away half the field. That's just one player eliminating an entire half of a field. That gives DCs a lot of room to maneuver.

 

Ok so, how about "the Panther's offensive line is good because Kalil is good"... how is that different...?

 

Regardless, you didn't address my actual point, which was that what I meant by my original post was that Sherman is as good as he is because of the OTHER DBs in the secondary. This is actually how most people would interpret the statement, and I suspect you knew what I meant.

[The Huddler]

Are you just trolling? Or, are you really that big of a moron?

Inquiring minds really want to know.

Why we gotta start calling names. That taints you're good argument

[CPF4LIFE]

Take away our DEs and how good is our defense??

[Gabeking]

[RelaxImaPro]

Seattle's d-line is actually underrated. I mean its not as good as ours, but it helps their secondary out.

And Sherman isn't even the best player in that secondary. Earl Thomas is.

They just have a group of players that fit their system perfect.

[RelaxImaPro]

Wasn't that originated by the media as a mean to compliment(or hype) certain players? It's synonymous to an athletic rocket scientist. lol

Yeah, I mean its not like Luke is easily one of the most athletic LBers in the league... nah, he's Blaine Gabbert.

Jeeze, can this moron get banned for racism already? He spews this thinly-veiled crap in nearly every thread.

[rayzor]

Are you just trolling?  Or, are you really that big of a moron?

 

Inquiring minds really want to know.

 

 

Why we gotta start calling names. That taints you're good argument

agreed.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

Sacks and INTs are the name of the game defensively.

no. sacks and interceptions are just icing on the cake.

[Pox 08]

Two players... one of them a SB champion,  the other is the reigning DPOY.

 

 

 

Kuechly has great players around him on the Dline and Davis is next to him..

 

Sherman has great players around him...  an underrated Dline and the best safety duo in the NFL.

 

 

With both players obviously playing amazing football..  I'd give the nudge to Kuechly.     He has more to do,  he is the general of his defense... pulling and tugging on players to put them in the right position,  for them to make the most impact.     Sherman does a fantastic job...  but I'd take the guy that is coordinating his defense,  and going toe to toe with Qbs,  trying to counter what they call. 

 

 

 

I agree with the example of "it's like saying a WR is more valuable than a QB".   Both Kuechly and Sherman are at the top of their respective positions.    It would be like saying Megatron is more valuable than Peyton Manning.    Both amazing players,  but the nudge always goes to the guy that has a lot more on his plate,  in the case of both being at the top or close to the top of their positions.

[CatMan72]

QB success depends much more on the people around him.

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[Peppers90 NC]

Take away our DEs and how good is our defense??

All or just hardy and cj? The line rotates constantly while keek plays without rest? A team with zero de's would surely struggle. Our defense was terrible in 2010 and 2011 with those same ends but no Luke

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