Josh Gordon may just be stupid

[TheRed]

I agree with that statement wholeheartedly. But unfortunately we do not get to make that call. And as long as the rules are the way they are, if someone shooses not to abide by them, then they are stupid. 

 

I will give you an example, the player who was suspended for taking fertility drugs ( if that turns out to be true) should not be suspended in a perfect world. But he was because he did not inform the league that he would be taking them. It was a violation, plain and simple. If he turns around and does the same thing again, then he is stupid. Understand what I am trying to say?

 

I hadn't heard it was fertility drugs, that is messed up. I think that is a pretty good example of the lack of parity as a whole in the suspensions that the NFL hands down though. Four games for fertility drugs, but getting arrested is less likely to get you a lengthy suspension, if at all.

 

There's nothing any of us fans can do about it, but it's still a bad look for the league.

[sharkkiller]

I hadn't heard it was fertility drugs, that is messed up. I think that is a pretty good example of the lack of parity as a whole in the suspensions that the NFL hands down though. Four games for fertility drugs, but getting arrested is less likely to get you a lengthy suspension, if at all.

 

There's nothing any of us fans can do about it, but it's still a bad look for the league.

 

 

it was Robert Mathis.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10943493/robert-mathis-indianapolis-colts-suspended-four-games-peds

 

I think you and I are on the same side of the argument against the current drug program/penalties in the NFL.

 

But I stand by my statements that if you cannot abide by them, and continue to smoke pot, when you have already been suspended once for it, then you are stupid. 

 

For example, I work in the call center industry, and if one of my agents hangs up on a customer, we tell them not to do it again. If they continue to do it, they will eventually lose their job. And there is no one to blame but themselves. It is the same thing. If you get in trouble for doing something, and are over the age of 4....then you need to stop doing that thing.

[TheRumGone]

I still think suspending players an entire season for drug use is an overreaction, and ultimately not very helpful, at least not by itself. If you are going to take that kind of extreme step, then also require the player to complete a lengthy real legitimate rehabilitation program.

It's a reflection of American society

Lock people away instead of treating= Take money away instead of treating

It's not going to fix the problem. But before somebody jumps on me. It's the users choice initially to seek help.

[TheRed]

it was Robert Mathis.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10943493/robert-mathis-indianapolis-colts-suspended-four-games-peds

 

I think you and I are on the same side of the argument against the current drug program/penalties in the NFL.

 

But I stand by my statements that if you cannot abide by them, and continue to smoke pot, when you have already been suspended once for it, then you are stupid. 

 

For example, I work in the call center industry, and if one of my agents hangs up on a customer, we tell them not to do it again. If they continue to do it, they will eventually lose their job. And there is no one to blame but themselves. It is the same thing. If you get in trouble for doing something, and are over the age of 4....then you need to stop doing that thing.

 

Fair enough. I hope for his sake that the guy gets it together, because he is very talented.

 

It's a reflection of American society

Lock people away instead of treating= Take money away instead of treating

It's not going to fix the problem. But before somebody jumps on me. It's the users choice initially to seek help.

 

I agree, like I said above, I hope he does get the help he needs.

 

As for the NFL, with these long suspensions of players for drugs, they better make an example out of Jim Irsay.

 

[Kakarot]

Josh Gordon is sick and has an addiction. He needs help. I hope he beats this and gets back to playing football. He's an exciting player, and already one of the best players in the league

[pantherclaw]

exactly. why would they choose these drugs over all of that??? hmmm....addiction maybe?

like i said its their personal responsibility to seek help. but they do need help.

and there are many programs out there that work.

While nothing is promised, faith based, 12 step programs have a very high success rate, and are often free.

They have to want to get better. The hardest step is often just walking in the door to seek help.

[pantherclaw]

I still think suspending players an entire season for drug use is an overreaction, and ultimately not very helpful, at least not by itself. If you are going to take that kind of extreme step, then also require the player to complete a lengthy real legitimate rehabilitation program.

that is often part of the agreement along with the suspension.

[pantherclaw]

id rather my player continually fail drug tests for marijuana throughout his entire career than hit his SO one time.

that isn't the point.

Im not disagreeing with you at all.

Rules are rules. You break them, you pay. Period.

Like the rules or not, you agree to them when ya sign the contract.

[CarolinaCoolin]

I'd still want him catching passes from cam I don't really care he does 14 over the speed limit and smoked pot. Millions of people do that already

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[pantherclaw]

Richardson would care.

[Jmac]

I do not know what kind of treatment they could give him besides Narctotics Anonymous.....and programs like that (such as AA)need to be voluntary or it's a waste of time. I still say it's more a case of immaturity and lack of responsibility more so then an "addiction". No way weed is addictive like say heroin or crack. Only thing it ever did to me was make me lethargic and eat with a bad case of cotton mouth. I have smoked my share of it back in the day as did my friends.....nobody I knew went into treatment for smoking weed......nicotine is harder to kick. No excuses....he knew his ass would be nailed to the wall if he did it again...no sympathy.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

That is a very broad generalization. I know plenty of very intelligent people who smoke pot.

People who can't stop for 10 years while they earn millions of dollars?

those people are stupid.

I think they only have to stop for a few weeks just to get it out of the system. I heard that they actually know the date the test will be given. Which, to you point makes them stupid.

[Ace_Aladdin]

How do you define intelligence? You may know many people who have good jobs, have a degree, or whatever that smoke pot, but they still aren't smart. Smoking anything damages your lungs and your brain, arguably the 2 most important parts of the body outside of the heart. Anybody who needs a high to be happy really needs to reconsider their life, and what's important to them. I don't agree that pot should be illegal, but I don't think anyone should ever smoke it. And medicinal, that's a whole load of crap. It doesn't help with a damn thing. Just an excuse to legally smoke it. At this point, it should be legal so it can be taxed and we can stop wasting resources on catching offenders, but anyone who smokes it is an idiot.

 

 

What about drinking?? I guess anybody who drinks a few cold one to relax is stupid also. Every person is different and copes with everyday life in their own way. Human mental state varies and people are "addicted"  or "rely" on  tv, games, alcohol, food , etc. for   stress, happiness,, blah blah  Its called LIFE!

[Jangler]

What about drinking ?