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Irving- 21/6/4

Leonard- 13/2/6

Klay- 18/2/3

Kemba- 18/6/4

Pretty sad how much locals bash on Kemba. He is a very, very good young PG. He is the best player from his draft.

Yeah, Kyrie average a couple more points per game, but he also a turns the ball over more, misses half the games with injury, & routinely finishes with a horrible record. He is vastly overrated. The Andrew Luck of the NBA; anointed in college & the pros, yet he's never accomplished anything.

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Irving is the most overrated player in the NBA and is made of glass. Kemba has owned him numerous times.

Klay is a flat out terrible defensive player and a one-dimensional offensive player who is a volume chucker.

Leonard is a marginal role player. He plays for arguably the greatest basketball coach ever. He's purely a product of a system and would be nothing on a lesser team where he wasn't the 4th-5th option.

Shut your hole. You know poo.

I've said it before that Kemba brought more to CLT than Irving to Cleveland, but no way is Kemba a better player.

You need to really quit throwing crap on the wall hoping that it'll stick. Making you look like a real dumbass. Klay is one if the only few who can shoot the damn ball and defend. Wonder who was the one having to guard CP3 in the playoffs, it was Klay.

Again, Leonard being a 4th or 5th option? Omfg. Pure retarded. You're going to come on here, brag about Kemba, MKG, Biz, and Zeller but act like Irving, Leonard, and Klay are trash.

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Shut your hole. You know poo.

I've said it before that Kemba brought more to CLT than Irving to Cleveland, but no way is Kemba a better player.

You need to really quit throwing crap on the wall hoping that it'll stick. Making you look like a real dumbass. Klay is one if the only few who can shoot the damn ball and defend. Wonder who was the one having to guard CP3 in the playoffs, it was Klay.

Again, Leonard being a 4th or 5th option? Omfg. Pure retarded. You're going to come on here, brag about Kemba, MKG, Biz, and Zeller but act like Irving, Leonard, and Klay are trash.

 

I agree with him that Kemba is better then all of those players that you listed. Kemba's proven over the last two seasons that he's a top 10 NBA PG. The reason it doesn't work well here in Charlotte for him is the players and system don't match really well.

 

 

As for the other players mentioned.....   

 

Klay is horrible on defensive and if CP3 was a shooter that series would have looked worse... however when CP3 wanted to do something against Clay or Curry he was able to do what ever he wanted.  Rewatch that series and see how often CP3 tore down Klay's defense and just blew past him. 

 

 

As for Irving, I think he's the most over rated player in the NBA. He's still a good player though. 

 

Leonard is a good defensive player and is good at shooting open 3's, but he plays in a system perfectly suited to his strengths. He's really lucky that SA drafted him, same thing with Green, he's lucky to have found a spot with SA. 

 

I think Leonard would have success with another team, I just don't think he'd be able to be a #2/3 option player regularly. 

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I agree with him that Kemba is better then all of those players that you listed. Kemba's proven over the last two seasons that he's a top 10 NBA PG. The reason it doesn't work well here in Charlotte for him is the players and system don't match really well.

As for the other players mentioned.....

Klay is horrible on defensive and if CP3 was a shooter that series would have looked worse... however when CP3 wanted to do something against Clay or Curry he was able to do what ever he wanted. Rewatch that series and see how often CP3 tore down Klay's defense and just blew past him.

As for Irving, I think he's the most over rated player in the NBA. He's still a good player though.

Leonard is a good defensive player and is good at shooting open 3's, but he plays in a system perfectly suited to his strengths. He's really lucky that SA drafted him, same thing with Green, he's lucky to have found a spot with SA.

I think Leonard would have success with another team, I just don't think he'd be able to be a #2/3 option player regularly.

I can agree with most of what you said to some point.

However, Kemba is not a top10 PG in this league!!! Only will CLT fans believe that.

Derrick Rose (healthy)

CP3

Tony Parker

Westbrook

Rondo

Damian Lillard

DWilliams

John Wall

Jrue Holiday

Irving

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The Andrew Luck of the NBA, lol.

I do agree with that.

But, let's remember that a young Peyton Manning pretty much was an Andrew Luck today. It wasn't until he won a SB for people to really put Manning as maybe the greatest QB to ever play. Same like Lebron in Cleveland.

Right now, Luck, CP3, Irving, and Melo are all the same. All talented specimen with no ring. Once they get that ring they'll be look at differently.

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career per 36 (pt reb ast stl to)

Irving--- 22/6/4/2/3

Kemba- 18/6/4/2/2

Irving--- 55 wins

Kemba- 67 wins

Irving--- 49 games missed

Kemba- 9 games missed

PLEASE, OH GREAT TALENT EVALUATOR, TELL ME MORE ABOUT HOW KYRIE IRVING IS A SUPERSTAR!!!

They're two different style of PG being use differently. Go research that for yourself.

Never said Irving was a superstar. He's being made by the media like he's a "star", not superstar. But, no one except only you can argue that Irving is a much talented individual PG than Kemba.

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I do agree with that.

But, let's remember that a young Peyton Manning pretty much was an Andrew Luck today. It wasn't until he won a SB for people to really put Manning as maybe the greatest QB to ever play. Same like Lebron in Cleveland.

Right now, Luck, CP3, Irving, and Melo are all the same. All talented specimen with no ring. Once they get that ring they'll be look at differently.

Peyton isn't a top 10 QB all time. He's spent his entire career padding his regular season stats against crappy teams like Jacksonville, Tennessee, Houston, Oakland, etc. He sucks in the playoffs against real competition.

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Peyton isn't a top 10 QB all time. He's spent his entire career padding his regular season stats against crappy teams like Jacksonville, Tennessee, Houston, Oakland, etc. He sucks in the playoffs against real competition.

 

You had me until this post.

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I can agree with most of what you said to some point.

However, Kemba is not a top10 PG in this league!!! Only will CLT fans believe that.

Derrick Rose (healthy)

CP3

Tony Parker

Westbrook

Rondo

Damian Lillard

DWilliams

John Wall

Jrue Holiday

Irving

 

Not sure I put John Wall, Jrue Holiday, or maybe even Rondo over Kemba.  At the very least they are on the same level

 

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I can agree with most of what you said to some point.

However, Kemba is not a top10 PG in this league!!! Only will CLT fans believe that.

Derrick Rose (healthy)

CP3

Tony Parker

Westbrook

Rondo

Damian Lillard

DWilliams

John Wall

Jrue Holiday

Irving

 

 

Rose hasn't been healthy since when? Can't count him till he shows he can be healthy and stay that way.

 

I'll give you 

 

CP3

Parker

Williams

Lillard

Westbrook (even though he's more SG then PG)

 

 

I'd put Walker on the same level as Rondo, Wall, Holiday and Irving. 

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