Manziel Not Impressing

[Squirrel]

Who cares.   

[ed bell]

The way those two competing for the starting job played, I can't see why you wouldn't want to give Shaw more looks.

[PandaPancake]

 

 

 

These are guys who are called passionate leaders of their team. The guy who just wears a towel over his head and moped cause he lost is the one who gets crucified.

 

Manziel is a wanna be. Hasn't even started a regular season game much less finished a season. Brady and Ryan at least have accomplished something.

 

Waaaah they intercepted my pass. I'm Johnny fuging Manziel they're not supposed to intercept me.

[SOJA]

I disagree. I think it's the opposite. ESPN and the news in general can influence a viewer's perception of what is happening in the world (Fox vs. CNN vs. MSNBC, etc) so if they make Johnny Manziel out to be the lead story all the time, the public will react as though Johnny Manziel is themost important figure in the NFL at the moment.

In the old days it was that recognition of the power of the media that made it a priority to report fairly, but once news started becoming more about the entertainment value than the news itself, it became "what can we do to start a conversation to stay relevant in the ratings?"

It's not like ESPN has a responsibility to be bound by that integrity anyway. Nowhere in those initials does it say anything about "News."

 

 

but the point is that if no one wanted to watch manziel, ESPN wouldn't show it. They don't have some evil agenda against certain players or teams, they just want the most viewers.

[davos]

Brown fans seem pretty divided over the kid:

 

http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=29963

 

I think he can have a decent career but he looks even smaller and not as fast out there.  Has a ways to go and he's not close to where Wilson, Cam, or Kaep were coming out of college.   

[CarolinaCoolin]

This is all about confirmation bias. If you like Johnny this doesn't bother you. If you didn't like him to begin with you are going to jump all over him for this and anything else that he does.

We love when guys show emotion except for when it's someone or some emotion we don't like. Give this guy a break. If you don't like him don't watch him.

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[Mr. Scot]

This is all about confirmation bias. If you like Johnny this doesn't bother you. If you didn't like him to begin with you are going to jump all over him for this and anything else that he does.

We love when guys show emotion except for when it's someone or some emotion we don't like. Give this guy a break. If you don't like him don't watch him.

 

I can honestly say I don't really care whether a guy plays for my team, or is even my favorite player.

 

If he flips an opposing bench the bird (and just for trash talk no less, not like they tried to injure him) I'm gonna say that's immature.

[CarolinaCoolin]

I can honestly say I don't really care whether a guy plays for my team, or is even my favorite player.

If he flips an opposing bench the bird (and just for trash talk no less, not like they tried to injure him) I'm gonna say that's immature.

Years and years of watching smith and you really have the nerve to say that? Smith punching players getting into fights trash talking and we all loved it and ate it up.

Now there is this kid Johnny who you haven't liked since he came into the national spot light who you have stated on this board won't be any good not because of his play but of his character long before he had even taken a snap in the nfl and you are all over this.

CONFORMATION BIAS. Stop it this is pathetic.

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[Mr. Scot]

Years and years of watching smith and you really have the nerve to say that? Smith punching players getting into fights trash talking and we all loved it and ate it up.

Now there is this kid Johnny who you haven't liked since he came into the national spot light who you have stated on this board won't be any good not because of his play but of his character long before he had even taken a snap in the nfl and you are all over this.

CONFORMATION BIAS. Stop it this is pathetic.

 

Actually we all didn't 'eat it up'.

 

Through his early years, I criticized Smith numerous times for immature behavior.  Heck, even in his later years I still considered him to be - and frequently referred to him as - a double edged sword.

 

I'm also not afraid to criticize Newton if he behaves badly.  But there's no need to because he generally doesn't.

[CarolinaCoolin]

Behaves badly? By whose standards? Yours? Are you the behavior police? Do you have rights or authority to tell other human beings with emotion who are playing an emotional game how to act?

Excuse me but I'd rather not watch a boring drone everyone act the same sport.

This sport is violent it's emotional and that's what makes it football.

Sick and tired of people like you trying to police the Johnny's the Sherman's the cams the Brady's the farves and the harbaughs out of the league because you don't like their emotion or don't like their character.

Next time keep your mouth shut and stop this little witch hunt you have over this kid it's quite annoying.

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[Mr. Scot]

Behaves badly? By whose standards? Yours? Are you the behavior police? Do you have rights or authority to tell other human beings with emotion who are playing an emotional game how to act?

Excuse me but I'd rather not watch a boring drone everyone act the same sport.

This sport is violent it's emotional and that's what makes it football.

Sick and tired of people like you trying to police the Johnny's the Sherman's the cams the Brady's the farves and the harbaughs out of the league because you don't like their emotion or don't like their character.

Next time keep your mouth shut and stop this little witch hunt you have over this kid it's quite annoying.

 

Would you care to point out an instance where flipping someone off would be considered a mature, classy thing to do?

 

[CarolinaCoolin]

Would you care to point out an instance where flipping someone off would be considered a mature, classy thing to do?

When was football ever classy or mature? This is a children's game being played by adults. Flipping someone off is an adult gesture. Maybe you should be the one to grow up if you can't handle seeing that.

A little Disney movie by the name of guardians of the galaxy had the exact same gesture and I haven't see one mr scot post vilifying that movie and calling it not classy or immature.

Again conformation bias.

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[Mr. Scot]

When was football ever classy or mature? This is a children's game being played by adults. Flipping someone off is an adult gesture. Maybe you should be the one to grow up if you can't handle seeing that.

A little Disney movie by the name of guardians of the galaxy had the exact same gesture and I haven't see one mr scot post vilifying that movie and calling it not classy or immature.

Again conformation bias.

 

 

Just...wow :lol:

 

Tell ya what.  Why don't you ask Thomas Davis whether he'd consider the bird as a valid response?

 

[CarolinaCoolin]

Just...wow :lol:

Tell ya what. Why don't you ask Thomas Davis whether he'd consider the bird as a valid response?

That has about zero relevance to the conversation we are having. How about you try to keep it on topic or admit that you are wrong try top police others characters that you don't agree with out of the game and attacking a kid and using it as a guise claiming he can't play.

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