Manziel Not Impressing

[micnificent28]

Remember how bad cam looked before the first game of the regular season. Right now they are basically finding out what he can and can't do.

[TheRed]

It has been noted in several publications he was at the Masters, drunk off of his ass with his Father.  He has no concept of responsibility or maturity.

 

This guy is Bernie Kosar waiting to happen.

 

He is a functioning alcoholic just waiting to blow through millions of dollars and thousands of fans dreams.

 

Praise be to allah I am not a Brown fan.

 

Link? Searching pulls up absolutely nothing about him being drunk there, only that he was in attendance.

[rodeo]

I'm not a Manziel fan and hardly know who he is, but if I was him I would remember some of these comments when it's contract renewal time.

 

Yes the Panthers started Cam after Clausen in pre-season on the depth chart. But you did not see Rivera making public statements like "Newton is so far behind every QB on our roster, Clausen is the starter and it's not even close." That's brash and disrespectful to the player, I think.

[Jacob]

Terrible thread.

[stirs]

Teammates love the attention he gets. (sarcasm)

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11028415/ben-tate-cleveland-browns-bristles-johnny-manziel-media-horde

 

All that counts is that Johnny loves it

[Ricky Spanish]

Guise... Stahp... just.. just stahp guise.

 

He isn't a Panther. He isn't important. Talking about him only perpetuates the attention he receives and validates ESPN's coverage of the turds he cuts. I don't think he will be good in the NFL, then again, I don't care whether I am right or wrong about it in the first place. 

 

Let's just end this please. For the children. 

[Snake]

Are you talking about 49er fans, or their front office??

I bet the 49er front office would Jettison Kaepernick in a hot second for Cam before the thought was ever completed.

And if you're going by Hargaugh's comments on Kaepernick...? Don't! He said the same things about Alex Smith, before he let him go. LMAO. He's just knows how to boost up players that he knows needs it. And Kaep and Smith needed it. Don't fall for that one!

I couldn't care less what most 49er fans think (or generalizations about them), if you meant that. Means nothing to me.

You act like Kaepernick was some world beater. How soon we forget. Career bust, Alex Smith put up great numbers and had Kaepernick sitting on the bench for a year and a half while he learned. If Kaep was so good, why couldn't he beat out Alex Smith? And why did Smith put up just as good a numbers as Kaep did in SF, and actually played better in Kansas City than Kaepernick did in SF last year? Many 49er fans wanted him back to replace Kaep even.

Are you actually trying to compare Cam and Kaepernick now? Kaepernick was never required to do what Cam does, carrying his load, mind you sitting on the bench behind a career bust such as Alex Smith.

That should tell you right there, it's "the system" that made Kaep successful, cause Smith played better in it his first two years with Harbaugh than Colin actually did. Are you going to deny that?

This is not about favorites. I actually watch most NFL games, and don't play favorites. Unfortunately, many fans (such as the one's you're possibly mentioning) can't discern or breakdown a QB from the rest of his team, coaches and support system. They only follow/know the end result. usually it's a chain of things that happen before hand. Some happen off the field. And once again, if it was Harbaugh you were quoting: Don't get the Gas Face. He said the same things about Alex Smith. And if he could get Cam, he would dump Kaepernick in a NY minute, shipping him off to Siberia, in NFL purgatory in exchange. Trust me!

Remember, San Fran admitted (like Shananhan in DC), that Kaepernick wasn't there as a pocket QB (for his stage in the NFL). The reason why, cause he wasn't. He's a one read, happy feet guy. Always has been. So why we going around in circles/Why can't you see this?

The difference: Newton actually excelled in NFL offenses his first and second seasons (minus the Chud, Read Option emphasis experiment the first 8 games of his second), while both Kaepernick and RG3 struggled with them. And it has nothing with being a Panther or Newton fan. Those are just "dem facts". That should be your take away, if nothing else. Cam EXCELLED IN NFL SETS and scenarios; RG3 and Kaep DID NOT, and/or or had to scrap them altogether. Those guys aren't patient, and go through their progressions. When have you ever seen either Kaep or RG3 sit tight in the pocket for what seems like hours (so close to the end zone to boot), with bodies falling all over them, then throw a TD pass such as Cam did with Olsen late in the season or playoffs (the one where Olsen immediately fell down after)?

We don't have to go round and round in circles like this. It is what it is, till proven otherwise.

I'm done. But thanks!

Let's not forget Harbaugh picked up Gabbert to do the same thing to kap. Harbaugh is confident that any QB in his system will be good.

[FootballMaestro]

Let's not forget Harbaugh picked up Gabbert to do the same thing to kap. Harbaugh is confident that any QB in his system will be good.

 

Yeah, I can't believe that guy I was arguing with (forgot his name, too lazy to look) really believed Harbaugh, stating they would have drafted Kaepernick over Cam, wouldn't switch players, etc.. LMFAO

 

Yeah, didn't he see the memo that Alex Smith once presented about him being "the best QB in the NFL, we wouldn't want anyone else". Lol

 

Kaepernick better be careful on his contract demands, otherwise another career bust will be putting up career numbers in Frisco (if not this year, next year). Lol 

[Mr. Scot]

Mods, if any thread is begging to be locked...

[stirs]

And he just keeps impressing folks.

 

His teammates already think he is a big distraction, now the owner is rethinking.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/27/report-jimmy-haslam-wants-johnny-manziel-to-tone-it-down/

[FootballMaestro]

So you draft Johnny Manziel (after many teams passed) for publicity purposes it appears, then complain when he's acting a fool!?

 

Yikes! :startle:

[RelaxImaPro]

Here's what Manziel has to say about that.

 

[KillerKat]

He's going to be the biggest bust since JaWalrus.

[TheRumGone]

Here's what Manziel has to say about that.

 

 

what a fuging retard.

 

dude lots of nfl players love to have fun and drink. but surround yourself with people who are not gonna fuging film you while you're fuged up.