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Jase Apprentice

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last week one night I was going to the gym and a black helicopter was tightly circling my house, low to the ground.  I sat in my car and waited for it to go away.  It didn't.  After about a dozen circles, I just went to the gym.  I figured my family could fend themselves if they got taken by the government.

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last week one night I was going to the gym and a black helicopter was tightly circling my house, low to the ground. I sat in my car and waited for it to go away. It didn't. After about a dozen circles, I just went to the gym. I figured my family could fend themselves if they got taken by the government.

Now pass me that poo.

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I was on a six-week road trip a few years back. During one stretch in NOWHERE Colorado ... and I mean nowhere, off in the distance about 150 yds in the midst of wasteland was a black helicopter and two black SUVs. All 100% tinted. I wanted to go see who they were ... but I'd be dead now if I tried I'm sure.

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I don't know how anyone can be so stupid with Google around. http://fracfocus.org

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You obviously haven't heard...

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/19/1300472/-NC-Republicans-push-industry-desires-in-bill-that-would-jail-anyone-who-discloses-fracking-chemicals

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/21/north-carolina-fracking-bill_n_5365120.html?utm_hp_ref=green

 

http://www.southernstudies.org/2013/07/fracking-chemical-disclosure-divides-north-carolin.html

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Let's see, I'm going to go with the petroleum engineer on this one.

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I was guessing you would. He is, after all, completely and totally transparent and objective in the entire discussion.

 

Do some reading. The bill was advanced in the NC Assembly yesterday which will give companies a way out of disclosure. The bill is H94. But I'm sure you wouldn't want facts to get in the way, so here's the brief:

 

"Requiring public disclosure of chemicals used in fracking for oil and natural gas has proven to be a controversial issue in the states -- and in North Carolina the issue has pitted a regulatory commission against the state lawmakers who created it.

Last week the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission (MEC) voted unanimously to protest the state Senate's effort to take away its authority to set rules about fracking chemical disclosure. The legislature set up the commission last year after voting to allow fracking in the state and charged it with creating an oil and gas regulatory program.

 

The MEC had pledged to craft the nation's strictest rule for disclosure of fracking fluids, which include toxic chemicals such as ethylene glycol, methanol and naphthalene. But state Senators are attempting an end run around the commission with a revised version of a bill that the House passed in May. Last week the Senate Committee on Agriculture, Environment and Natural Resources overwhelmingly approved revisions to House Bill 94 that would allow oil and gas companies to designate chemicals as "trade secrets" and require their public disclosure only in cases where the N.C. Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) issues a written declaration that a situation endangers public health or the environment."

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I was guessing you would. He is, after all, completely and totally transparent and objective in the entire discussion.

 

Do some reading. The bill was advanced in the NC Assembly yesterday which will give companies a way out of disclosure. The bill is H94. But I'm sure you wouldn't want facts to get in the way, so here's the brief:

 

"Requiring public disclosure of chemicals used in fracking for oil and natural gas has proven to be a controversial issue in the states -- and in North Carolina the issue has pitted a regulatory commission against the state lawmakers who created it.

Last week the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission (MEC) voted unanimously to protest the state Senate's effort to take away its authority to set rules about fracking chemical disclosure. The legislature set up the commission last year after voting to allow fracking in the state and charged it with creating an oil and gas regulatory program.

 

The MEC had pledged to craft the nation's strictest rule for disclosure of fracking fluids, which include toxic chemicals such as ethylene glycol, methanol and naphthalene. But state Senators are attempting an end run around the commission with a revised version of a bill that the House passed in May. Last week the Senate Committee on Agriculture, Environment and Natural Resources overwhelmingly approved revisions to House Bill 94 that would allow oil and gas companies to designate chemicals as "trade secrets" and require their public disclosure only in cases where the N.C. Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) issues a written declaration that a situation endangers public health or the environment."

 

I am well aware of the issue.  I am also still siding with someone who knows what they're talking about.

 

I'm an engineer as well and would probably have a similar attitude about protecting the carolina heelsplitter if it was ever brought up in conversation, because the regulatory circus around it is just dumb and I have more knowledge about it than your run-of-the-mill politician or propaganda source.

 

I don't claim to be an expert about fracking, but I'm sure he has knowledge of the process above and beyond our understanding that supports his point of view.

 

 

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I am well aware of the issue.  I am also still siding with someone who knows what they're talking about.

 

I'm an engineer as well and would probably have a similar attitude about protecting the carolina heelsplitter if it was ever brought up in conversation, because the regulatory circus around it is just dumb and I have more knowledge about it than your run-of-the-mill politician or propaganda source.

 

I don't claim to be an expert about fracking, but I'm sure he has knowledge of the process above and beyond our understanding that supports his point of view.

 

 

 

Thank you for making my point.

 

As engineers, you have a vested interest in keeping your job and advancing/promoting the business, thereby ensuring your future employment along with its perks and raises. Basic stuff.

 

As politicians, Raleigh has a vested interest in lining their pockets and, maybe, helping the state become profitable. All the while furthering their own outside business interests.

 

So, while I'm sure each of you are true professionals and very knowledgeable in your chosen fields, on the other hand, I'm not likely to believe the wolf when he tells me the best way to keep him out of the hen house. So I'm sure you won't mind that I take with a grain of salt the word of someone who justifiably defends the people who pay him. 

 

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