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Fantasy football ranks and CAR

CAPantherFan

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Draconus Newbie

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I think any QB in the first round means you suck at fantasy football. Only one you could make an argument for right now would be Peyton, and I personally still wouldn't take him.

Agreed, dominated my way to a championship this year on the back of Andy Dalton, who I picked up in one of the last rounds.

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I couldn't disagree more. Reed, Olsen and Rudolph will be the 2nd tier and all after that will be mediocre at best. And Gronk?? I wouldn't even draft him in the 7th round if he were there.

2 things:

1) You're forgetting something about Gronk. When hes out, its not like you're without a TE. You still have tons of value on the waiver wire. So you're getting 8 weeks of elite value out of Gronk, then 8 weeks of average value out of whoever u pick up. (I dont draft Gronk either cuz i hate the guy. But his numbers + replacement value numbers are there).

2) dude dont fall for Rudolph. Hes WAAAAAY to TD dependent. Hes only topped 60 yards in 3 games over the past 2 years. Due to the TDs, hes still in that TE 4-12 group for sure, but he's way to limited to "lead" that second tier .

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I'm about as big of a football geek as I know, but fantasy football has always just been beyond stupid to me. Any system that devalues the QB so much while massively inflating the value of RBs is just way out of touch with the modern NFL.

Huh?

Devalues?

You must have stopped playing fantasy back in 2006. 16 out of the top 19 top scorers last year were QBs. The 16th rated QB outscored the #1 WR. And only 5 of the top 30 scorers were RBs

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2 things:

1) You're forgetting something about Gronk. When hes out, its not like you're without a TE. You still have tons of value on the waiver wire. So you're getting 8 weeks of elite value out of Gronk, then 8 weeks of average value out of whoever u pick up. (I dont draft Gronk either cuz i hate the guy. But his numbers + replacement value numbers are there).

2) dude dont fall for Rudolph. Hes WAAAAAY to TD dependent. Hes only topped 60 yards in 3 games over the past 2 years. Due to the TDs, hes still in that TE 4-12 group for sure, but he's way to limited to "lead" that second tier .

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First, I don't agree. You can get someone who'll put up twice as many points than anyone on the waiver wire. And in my first post I accidentally forgot Julius Thomas who is first tier. And part of the reason I'd never draft Gronk is because I hate him too.

Second, two words.... Norv. Turner. The TE God. Look at Cameron Jordan last year? Rudolph is 5x as good as Cameron and he'll have a better QB than the scrubs on Cleveland. Not to mention the Vikings' defense is worse and they'll be playing from behind needing to pass. Jordan will do nothing this year, and Rudolph will definitely be a top 5 TE.

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2 things...

First, I don't agree. You can get someone who'll put up twice as many points than anyone on the waiver wire. And in my first post I accidentally forgot Julius Thomas who is first tier. And part of the reason I'd never draft Gronk is because I hate him too.

Second, two words.... Norv. Turner. The TE God. Look at Cameron Jordan last year? Rudolph is 5x as good as Cameron and he'll have a better QB than the scrubs on Cleveland. Not to mention the Vikings' defense is worse and they'll be playing from behind needing to pass. Jordan will do nothing this year, and Rudolph will definitely be a top 5 TE.

 

Gronk finished in the top 15 last year, and the dude missed 9 full games. He played less than half a season. He averaged 13 points per game when he played, which is more than the guy you just said would be in the 1st tier (Julius Thomas - who averaged only 10 per game). Vernon Davis, who finished last year as the #2 TE, also finished averaging under 10 points per game. Will Gronk play all 16 games next year? Unlikely. But Besides Graham, he had the most points per game out of all TE's, so playing him for half (usually more than half) of the year, and playing replacement value the rest of the way, will still net you top 3 value. 

 

Example, if you take a guy who still finished BEHIND Gronk last year, Brent Celek (who finished 17th in TE and was owned in under 10% of leagues last year), and used him the weeks Gronk was out 1-6 and 15-17, you would have ended up with 132 fantasy points from your TE. Thats better than all but 3 TE's in the league last year. And as I mentioned before, thats with Gronk missing 9 full games, and leaving another one early.

 

I hate Gronk. I won't draft him because I don't want to root for him. So this feels weird that im defending him, but the numbers dont lie. 

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