This catch makes me feel at ease.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

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[MHS831]

Cam Newton was more accurate than Matt Schaub, Sam Bradford, Alex Smith, Tom Brady, Ryan Tannehill, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Joe Flacco, Matthew Stafford, Colin Kaepernick, and Eli Manning for the 2013 season.

 

Schaub, Smith, Tannehill, Luck, Stafford, Kaepernick, and Manning also were QBs that were LESS accurate than Newton who had the luxury of having a true "#1" WR on their team (Johnson, Bowe, Wallace, Hilton, Megatron, Boldin/Davis/Crabtree) unlike Newton.

 

"Cam is not an accurate passer" is a myth.

 

He throws high when he is off.  That is no secret.   You mentioned 3 top or elite qbs and they ALL had pretty severe WR issues.  Brady had a bunch of rookies and no TEs, Luck lost his #1, and Manning was flat on his back all season while Nicks disappeared. 

 

Nobody is bashing Cam---get past that.  This is about his accuracy when his rhythm is broken.  When the WR is not open. 

 

I can see the games.  I watched him throw high when his rhythm broke. There was no myth to it.  I saw it.  Heck, the NFL network announcers referred to it.  Cam is going to be a very great QB, but I am a realist.  I saw a series of high passes and a low-scoring offense.  It was not Cam's fault, but if you want him to sizzle, have open options and protect him.  He is not good after 3 seconds. 

 

If I have to present the link, I will, but we all watched the games.

[TheRed]

MHS wanted to trade him last October, who cares what he says about Cam. Don't bother.

[CPF4LIFE]

Cam Newton was more accurate than Matt Schaub, Sam Bradford, Alex Smith, Tom Brady, Ryan Tannehill, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Joe Flacco, Matthew Stafford, Colin Kaepernick, and Eli Manning for the 2013 season.

 

Schaub, Smith, Tannehill, Luck, Stafford, Kaepernick, and Manning also were QBs that were LESS accurate than Newton who had the luxury of having a true "#1" WR on their team (Johnson, Bowe, Wallace, Hilton, Megatron, Boldin/Davis/Crabtree) unlike Newton.

 

"Cam is not an accurate passer" is a myth.

 

Dont you know facts get you nowhere in a Cam Newton argument?

[Panthers8969]

But... If he gives it to him over the middle too many times like that, KB will end up on IR. LB and S will kill him.

If Goodell is still the comish in a couple yrs it will probably be illegal to breath on a wr in the air

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[IGSaint]

The things with the cam criticisms is that cam makes so many tight throws into the receivers and clutch throws that his misses get magnified for whatever reasons. As has been said many times in this thread. Cam is more accurate than a whole host of high profile qbs in this league. I think people on this forum just focus way too much on the negatives sometimes which other huddlers will agree with me. Usually though, those who say cam's negatives get focused on too much get called cam huggers so whatever. Cam has room for improvement like every other qb in this league and hopefully the improvements to the offense improves that part of his game too just like every other qb.

[mc52beast]

Whatever your area code is down there should be this kid's nickname... if it's in the vicinity, it's a reception.

[Pantherman]

We should trade for Andre Johnson since he wants out of Houston kb + aj= win

 

Just one problem with this picture. $ Something we don't have. If AJ is release. Then he is going to want plenty of $ to sign. So this is a pipe dream for us.

 

[FootballMaestro]

The things with the cam criticisms is that cam makes so many tight throws into the receivers and clutch throws that his misses get magnified for whatever reasons. As has been said many times in this thread. Cam is more accurate than a whole host of high profile qbs in this league. I think people on this forum just focus way too much on the negatives sometimes which other huddlers will agree with me. Usually though, those who say cam's negatives get focused on too much get called cam huggers so whatever. Cam has room for improvement like every other qb in this league and hopefully the improvements to the offense improves that part of his game too just like every other qb.

 

True. 

 

Particularly Cam's first two seasons, when he had more time to throw. 

 

He would just sit back in the pocket and make these incredible throws, usually to Steve smith when defenders were draped all over him. 

 

Agreed. No one saying Cam can't improve. Certainly he can, in several areas to boot. 

 

Nonetheless, the problem appears: some Huddler's seem to watch Newton in vacuum, absent of most other QB's in the NFL that do the same with more (receiving, and/or offensive line talent). It's almost like they live and die with his every throw (in that vacuum). 

 

As I stated earlier: I see poor, average, good and great QB's miss badly in games all the time, on the regular. It's par for the course every Sunday in the NFL....Many other times the QB's miss high or wide, and/or throw short, but their receivers are smart and skilled enough to catch them. As I said before, I think this was one of the reasons why Gettleman gutted the receiving corp.....Unlike many Huddlers, DG realized the Panthers didn't have an NFL Caliber receiving corp assisting Cam. Except for Olsen, Newton was helping them, more than they were helping him.

 

Let's hope the new additions show improvement  on the field next season.  

[thefuzz]

 

 

Nonetheless, the problem appears: some Huddler's seem to watch Newton in vacuum, absent of most other QB's in the NFL that do the same with more (receiving, and/or offensive line talent). It's almost like they live and die with his every throw (in that vacuum). 

 

 

 

 

Some, yes, but not all.  What many of us are looking at is Manning 1, Brady, Rivers, Rodgers, Brees, and the like, and comparing them to Cam.  It's not fair, but that's life.

 

We have one of the best QB's in the game, and he can do things that those QB's can't do, however, when he gets the passing game down pat, he will be unstoppable.  That is what we are hoping for.

 

It's not hating, bashing, or anything else, just hoping that Cam can continue to improve, and one day pass the ball as consistently as those dudes....if he is every able to get there (he is still great without that ability) then we will be force, even moreso than we are.

[FootballMaestro]

I agree with what you're saying.  I remember whenever I'd see Miami play, I noticed that Ryan Tannehill had a number of balls that were overthrown to his receivers each game.

 

Good point. 

 

The difference: Miami fans (and those of most other teams) don't obsess over every single miss that Tannehil/their QB has during a game, then talk about them for another 7 days on their team forums till the next one. 

[IGSaint]

Some, yes, but not all.  What many of us are looking at is Manning 1, Brady, Rivers, Rodgers, Brees, and the like, and comparing them to Cam.  It's not fair, but that's life.

 

We have one of the best QB's in the game, and he can do things that those QB's can't do, however, when he gets the passing game down pat, he will be unstoppable.  That is what we are hoping for.

 

It's not hating, bashing, or anything else, just hoping that Cam can continue to improve, and one day pass the ball as consistently as those dudes....if he is every able to get there (he is still great without that ability) then we will be force, even moreso than we are.

 

The point of what he said was that those same qb's that you mentioned also have their high throws and misses that go for interceptions too. None of the qb's you listed is perfect and only one of them even got to the superbowl. Posters forget about that when they compare newton to the qb's you listed. 

[TheRed]

Some, yes, but not all.  What many of us are looking at is Manning 1, Brady, Rivers, Rodgers, Brees, and the like, and comparing them to Cam.  It's not fair, but that's life.

 

We have one of the best QB's in the game, and he can do things that those QB's can't do, however, when he gets the passing game down pat, he will be unstoppable.  That is what we are hoping for.

 

It's not hating, bashing, or anything else, just hoping that Cam can continue to improve, and one day pass the ball as consistently as those dudes....if he is every able to get there (he is still great without that ability) then we will be force, even moreso than we are.

 

Those quarterbacks you just listed combine for a total of 62 years in the NFL.

 

Considering what Cam has accomplished so far, and the fact that he is only entering his fourth season, we have a lot to be thankful for.

[FootballMaestro]

Some, yes, but not all.  What many of us are looking at is Manning 1, Brady, Rivers, Rodgers, Brees, and the like, and comparing them to Cam.  It's not fair, but that's life.

 

We have one of the best QB's in the game, and he can do things that those QB's can't do, however, when he gets the passing game down pat, he will be unstoppable.  That is what we are hoping for.

 

It's not hating, bashing, or anything else, just hoping that Cam can continue to improve, and one day pass the ball as consistently as those dudes....if he is every able to get there (he is still great without that ability) then we will be force, even moreso than we are.

 

Unfortunately, I don't think this (the bold) is what they're talking about/aspiring to. And even those QB's make bad/WTF throws during games. It's part of the game. Misses Happen. 

 

As an example: Tom Brady is awful when he doesn't have time with a pass rush in his face (as most QB's), as the Giants showed once again during his last Superbowl appearance. Just god awful! We saw Drew Brees play horribly with many wild over and under throws playing outdoor in the playoffs in 2013 as well. You can say the same for Peyton Manning the same year. And Let's not even talk about Phillip Rivers, who up until this year,  was horrible the past few seasons, etc. Now Aaron Rodgers, he's damn near perfect! Lol. 

 

Point is: All QB's have their weaknesses, especially when they're exploited (better defense, or teammates not doing their jobs). This is why they say, "usually with every great QB, you see a great coach coaching him". They make sure they keep the odds in their QB's favor for what they do well. And I don't see Cam's high throws under pressure when he doesn't have his feet set as some disproportionate Fatal Football Flaw, especially when I see most QB's in the NFL do it on the regular (whether they're balls are actually caught or not). It's the truth. Many times, these aren't even poorly thrown balls, and just miscommunication or bad route running. 

 

We also have to keep in mind, Cam, more often than not, will make more out of less than all those QB's mentioned above (with the exception of Aaron Rogers), especially when things break down. However, unlike RG3, Kaep, Russell Wilson, and others, Cam can excel sitting in the pocket throwing darts. He just needs the line and WR's who can help and keep him doing that on the regular. He's already shown this. How soon do people forget.