This catch makes me feel at ease.

[MHS831]

Not sure what you mean by this line (bold). But I don't think Cam is any more in-accurate than most QB's around the league (especially for his tenure). If anything, he may be in the more accurate bunch, throwing to small and not so talented receivers since in the league.

 

You know how many QB's get bailed for their high, short and near off the field passes on the regular every weekend (which gets dropped, tipped, missed or intercepted by Panther receivers)? Doesn't matter why it happens (pressure, footwork, etc.) They throw bad passes on the regular, and their receivers bail them out on the regular This is why I'm sure Gettlemen gutted the entire WR group. They sucked, and did Cam no favors (leaving aside the offensive line, and how Cam had to adjust/make due with the pass rush, and it's effects on his throwing). 

 

Bottome Line: Anyone who watches other teams play on the regular KNOW, that all QB's throw high balls and bad ball numerous times during a game (for a multiplicity of reasons, having to do with the QB, Line, and Receiver). I think Cam is singled out here, quite honestly cause most Huddler's appear dumb, insular and oblivious to what happens in the rest of the league!! 

 

Give Cam protection and better receivers, and watch the magic. He's already demonstrated this, when the line and his receivers (first year) were better. 

 

I am not going to say that Cam is as accurate as other TOP QBs in the league--Cam was inaccurate during many games-I don't blame the OL as much as I do the WRs.  I read a stat recently that said his QB rating dropped dramatically-way more than other QBs--after holding the ball for more than 3 seconds. 

 

Big QBs have more difficulty with their mechanics in their lower body than smaller qbs.  So, when Cam's rhythm is broken by a pass rusher or covered receiver, he mentally prepares to run.  Standing in the pocket is something he tries to do and I think he does well, but have you noticed how much he tends to throw off his back foot when he does?

 

I think Gettlemen answered this question when he cut Smitty and let the other 3 WRs walk.   The WRs were not getting open--Lafell could not beat single man coverage vs., the other team's #2--Smitty slowed and was often thrown to when covered, and Ginn's routes took a while to develop.  Heck, Cam did not have the run game we all think he had--RBs averaged 90 yards per game for us--Cam averaged 37 or so.  Teams were blitzing because our WRs posed no threats.  So people blamed the line more than they should because they had 2 reserves and Bell up front.  The problem was--the defense didn't need but 4 players to cover our receivers/TEs.  They could walk 8 into the box. 

 

Our top 3 WRs caught 9 balls per game.  In Denver, the top 3 caught 18 per game.  In Denver, they also rushed for 120 yards per game--and they did all this without a LT for most of the season.

 

Cam needs good WRs and a good line to be good, but I think the line issue is not as big as others think.  Cam did not have anyone to throw to--so he checked down to Olsen, who had a career year.  But the main reason Cam was off was because his rhythm was broken--most QBs throw the ball well before the 3 second mark--but Cam held it a lot.  Remember that some of Cam's big rushes would have been sacks with another QB.

 

So Cam's accuracy will only improve as the WRs get better.  LT?  sure, but time was not Cam's enemy much in 2013 as much as nobody being open was.

 

[*FreeFua*]

Not surprised, been saying this. But we need more receivers like this. I would kill to have that Marshall/Jeffery tandem down here.

Bills released Brandon Kaufman yesterday. Can't hurt to bring him in for a look.

[TheRed]

Get the nuts off your chin.

 

I was merely stating what "throwing it flat" meant to the other poster.

 

Cam does throw it flat, he can drop it in the bread basket, but that's not what he does on the reg.

 

Calm down.

 

Do you go around telling random people in social settings to "get the nuts off your chin"?

 

I mean how dare I post a real example of the horrible drops from our previous WR's.

[BigSyke]

cam has a great deep ball......did you see it when aj dropped that bomb in the probowl?

 

cam has had some accuracy issues sure...but the guy never had the help either.

[thefuzz]

Do you go around telling random people in social settings to "get the nuts off your chin"?

 

I mean how dare I post a real example of the horrible drops from our previous WR's.

 

No, I don't, but you aren't a random person.  You are someone who I have had quite a few discussions with online about our QB Cam Newton.

 

Anything that I or anyone else says that is not glowing praise of everything Cam, finds you rushing to his rescue.  He doesn't need it, he is a pro bowl QB.

 

Cam has faults, he has tremendous positives, just try to calm down when someone talks about the faults.  Cam isn't the only QB I watch, I can bring up faults on every QB in the league, it's not a big deal.

[TheRed]

No, I don't, but you aren't a random person.  You are someone who I have had quite a few discussions with online about our QB Cam Newton.

 

Anything that I or anyone else says that is not glowing praise of everything Cam, finds you rushing to his rescue.  He doesn't need it, he is a pro bowl QB.

 

Cam has faults, he has tremendous positives, just try to calm down when someone talks about the faults.  Cam isn't the only QB I watch, I can bring up faults on every QB in the league, it's not a big deal.

 

I've been critical of Cam about the overthrows. There are many factors you have to take into account though, especially the OL, which hasn't gotten better since last year. You're telling me to calm down, but when I simply posted a piece of photographic evidence you went off the deep end.

 

It was you who plainly said:

 

 

Strong arm, high release, doesn't "drop" it in the bread basket.

 

Yet just a few posts later:

 

 

he can drop it in the bread basket, but that's not what he does on the reg.

 

So which one is it then?

[thefuzz]

I've been critical of Cam about the overthrows. There are many factors you have to take into account though, especially the OL, which hasn't gotten better since last year. You're telling me to calm down, but when I simply posted a piece of photographic evidence you went off the deep end.

 

It was you who plainly said:

 

 

Yet just a few posts later:

 

 

So which one is it then?

 

Jesus Pete.

 

I "went off the deep end" because you are always, always defending Cam to everyone.  It gets old, the boy is all grown up.  I know what we have as a QB, we can all talk about the good and the bad without a fanboy jumping all up in there.

 

Most of Cam Newton's throws are like fastballs, he can make every throw on the field, but over the corner and in front of the S, hitting a spot for the WR to get YAC is not a strength of his.  That's fine, he has other strengths, that's just not one of his.  He will get better, or maybe he won't, but lots of strong armed QB's struggle with it.  Again, not a big deal, but you have to rush to his rescue claiming that he does throw that ball perfectly, and it's our WR's fault.

 

P.S. He does need more pass catchers and I have been openly critical of the org for not bringing in more weapons and blocking for our franchise QB.  That said, with our HC, and what he wants to do, defense probably does equate to more W's than bringing in more O.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

No

Verticle

Required

.

[TheRed]

P.S. He does need more pass catchers and I have been openly critical of the org for not bringing in more weapons and blocking for our franchise QB.  That said, with our HC, and what he wants to do, defense probably does equate to more W's than bringing in more O.

 

I'm more concerned about the OL than WR's right now. About the defense, we better hope so, they couldn't save us in the playoffs.

[thefuzz]

I'm more concerned about the OL than WR's right now. About the defense, we better hope so, they couldn't save us in the playoffs.

 

 

Me too.

 

I called the playoff loss.  We just didn't have red zone threats to beat a team like SF or for that matter Sea.  We need height and now we got some...we still need more.

 

I'm hoping that we can grab a T on the wire, and Amini is healthy, if not, it could be a long season.

[TheRed]

Me too.

 

I called the playoff loss.  We just didn't have red zone threats to beat a team like SF or for that matter Sea.  We need height and now we got some...we still need more.

 

I'm hoping that we can grab a T on the wire, and Amini is healthy, if not, it could be a long season.

 

Those two red zone trips where we couldn't convert them into touchdowns killed us. 14 points off the board. That goes back to OL.

 

[Simon Says]

No

Verticle

Required

.

Doesn't need a vertical either.

[carolina-chuck]

Ridiculous RADIUS!

[PantherAZ]

True.

I love how people (even Panther fans) love to point out Cam's high balls, as if it's something unique to him.

Just watch the Sunday ticket and red zone every weekend, or even the Playoff's. QB's all over the league (elite, good, bad, indifferent) throw high and under thrown balls all the time, but they're caught on the regular, so no one mentions it or cares.

I don't think anyone is saying no one else does. Just that Panthers need someone that can catch them.