Hardy 911 call

[Squirrel]

Honestly I'm just going to go ahead and say it, I doubt some of these people here would be so quick to convict him if he were white.

 

Also I think some jump to the conclusion on Hardy past.  Would you be surprised if say Kevin Greene or Steve Smith where arrested for Domestic Violence? Granted on Smitty part it is pretty known on the board he adores his wife.  But has a known temper.

[csx]

Same type of poo was in the recent thread about Colin Kaepernick. Bigots here already had him locked up.

I think many just hate him for being the QB of the team that beat us in the playoffs and being from the same draft class as Newton and them always being compared.

 

Some are just racists.

[Squirrel]

Read above post.

 

Big Ben has allegations nobody even remembers it now. Colin Kaepernick? Oh, we better lock him away now. Oh wait, he actually didn't do anything? Yeah, it's the same story with the huddle, and elsewhere. Hey I'm white, but I see right through this facade.

 

You are assuming. Plenty of people still think Big Ben is a rapist. 

 

Edited May 15, 2014 by Squirrel

[bleys]

The judge (according to local newscasts) called the injuries disturbing and expressed concern for her safety.  If Hardy called 911 and complained that she used her heel against him etc, why was she not also required to spend 24 hours in jail?

 

The biggest question I have, and this goes along with what WOW was saying, is "Why was the home not checked out by police?"  Surely the broken glass and the guns would have been red flags that would have necessitated an arrest.

 

However, many of you who are defending Hardy fail to take into consideration the female voice on the other 911 call, that claimed that she "seen" Hardy hitting her.  An eyewitness, bruises, etc. could look bad for him.

 

I am not convicting Hardy, but I am not going to defend a person accused of hitting a woman until I am sure he didn't do it.  Maybe some here don't find that to be upsetting, but if she were your sister or mother, I am sure you would feel a bit differently about it.

 

why would you take her side into consideration when she changes her story?  She comes across like she's just trying to help her friend out..  Now if something later proves otherwise, then so be it.  But I don't know why anyone's first thought is: "she must be telling the truth"...

[Porn Shop Clerk]

because women don't lie!

 

that's why we put them up on a pedestal and pretend they're perfect unless they're fat or ugly then we get to make fun of them ahahahahahaha

[TheRed]

I think many just hate him for being the QB of the team that beat us in the playoffs and being from the same draft class as Newton and them always being compared.

 

Some are just racists.

 

I can agree with that, but literally hating someone just because they beat your team is pretty extreme.

 

You are assuming. Plenty of people still think Big Ben is a rapist. 

 

 

You wouldn't think so with all the people wearing his jersey still, and all the fans who flock to see the team play. Seems pretty forgotten.

[RoaringRiot]

I can agree with that, but literally hating someone just because they beat your team is pretty extreme.

You wouldn't think so with all the people wearing his jersey still, and all the fans who flock to see the team play. Seems pretty forgotten.

I hate him....but it's just "sports hate"

[csx]

I can agree with that, but literally hating someone just because they beat your team is pretty extreme.

 

 

You wouldn't think so with all the people wearing his jersey still, and all the fans who flock to see the team play. Seems pretty forgotten.

The hatred some folks here express for players and fans of other teams disgusts me.  It's fun to a point but people take this stuff insanely serious.

Edited May 15, 2014 by csx

[csx]

I can agree with that, but literally hating someone just because they beat your team is pretty extreme.

 

 

You wouldn't think so with all the people wearing his jersey still, and all the fans who flock to see the team play. Seems pretty forgotten.

 

I have the "good fortune" of being friends with some serious Steelers fans. They despise him.

[Montsta]

because women don't lie!

that's why we put them up on a pedestal and pretend they're perfect unless they're fat or ugly then we get to make fun of them ahahahahahaha

I'm told girls don't poop either.

[TheRed]

I have the "good fortune" of being friends with some serious Steelers fans. They despise him.

 

If Steelers fans really despised him they would stop going to games and cheering for a team who has a rapist for a QB.

[WOW!!]

It sounds as if you are looking for slanted, circumstantial reasons to support a person who might have just beaten a woman. There is reason to question some things at the appropriate time, but these questions need to come from objective thinkers. We all hope he is innocent, but I am not going to support him until I know for a fact what happened. You are presenting one-sided, inferential, insignificant, fragmented details and seem convinced that you have turned the tables.

The police? You have not questioned their handling of the situation. Why question her actions during and in the aftermath of the alleged assault when she was high and traumatized? If the police offered her medical attention and she refused, why would they then determine her injuries to be insignificant in terms of assault evidence? The injuries do not have to require medical attention to evidence abuse-according to NC law, that is only required as evidence in child abuse cases. Hardy claims to have been hit with a heel that drew blood. Was he offered medical assistance? Finally, maybe she went to a friend/relative's house and they advised her what to do to protect herself? There is no statute of limitations that invalidates an assault charge a few hours after it occurs. Much will come out. I am not blaming Hardy, the police, or the girl.

I am simply not going to build a case for a man just because he plays for my favorite football team. I hope this gets worked out, but for now, I am glad we are not into him for $39-50 million guaranteed.

1. I'm asking questions not determining guilt or innocence. There is a difference. I only stated the facts as reported. I haven't called the girl crazy or a bitch.

2. CMPD has a stout record of not showing favoritism. Your taking a extra step in questioning CMPD.

3. The story has some holes in it if we are being honest.

[RoaringRiot]

I'm told girls don't poop either.

This is true.........until you get married

[smash_n_dash]

It sounds as if you are looking for slanted,  circumstantial reasons to support a person who might have just beaten a woman.  There is reason to question some things at the appropriate time, but these questions need to come from objective thinkers.  We all hope he is innocent, but I am not going to support him until I know for a fact what happened.  You are presenting one-sided, inferential, insignificant, fragmented details and seem convinced that you have turned the tables.

 

The police?  You have not questioned their handling of the situation. Why question her actions during and in the aftermath of the alleged assault when she was high and traumatized?  If the police offered her medical attention and she refused, why would they then determine her injuries to be insignificant in terms of assault evidence?  The injuries do not have to require medical attention to evidence abuse-according to NC law, that is only required as evidence in child abuse cases.  Hardy claims to have been hit with a heel that drew blood.  Was he offered medical assistance?   Finally, maybe she went to a friend/relative's house and they advised her what to do to protect herself?  There is no statute of limitations that invalidates an assault charge a few hours after it occurs.  Much will come out.  I am not blaming Hardy, the police, or the girl. 

 

I am simply not going to build a case for a man just because he plays for my favorite football team.  I hope this gets worked out, but for now, I am glad we are not into him for $39-50 million guaranteed.

 

It sounds as if you have your mind made up that he's guilty of something.  Why can she be traumatized from this ordeal but Hardy not be traumatized as well?  He can be just as much a victim as she can.  Until you know facts, dont be so quick to pass judgement.