Greg Hardy Has a Collection of 25-30 Firearms

[BC75]

I am neither too proud for a shovel or too unmotivated to grasp 2003 technology, and I will gladly do either for 27/hr hahaha

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I'm with you on this one.  I'll pick up a shovel and I think I can grasp 2003 tech.  Especially for 27/hr. 

[CRA]

what i'm saying is this incident does nothing to change where he stands with the team. they just paid him $13.1M. i have a hard time believing they did that to say they overpaid for a rental. he's gonna get re-signed. cj is the one on the ropes. they stand to save tons by cutting. only way to save with hardy is to extend.

Incident certainly has something to do with where he stands with this team.

It will factor in when they decide what to do after this season is up. You want to give a guy a Charles Johnson mega deal who you have to worry about off the field?

[greghardy'sAK-47]

Incident certainly has something to do with where he stands with this team.

It will factor in when they decide what to do after this season is up. You want to give a guy a Charles Johnson mega deal who you have to worry about off the field?

if the panthers want to go that route, then he will get his mega-deal elsewhere.  to me it would be a mistake to let this incident sway opinion, then again i think they made a mistake franchising him in the first place.  this should be a non-issue.  be worse if he was a problem in the locker room.  

[tiger7_88]

BTW, 2nd amendment was not designed so everyone can have all the guns they want and have stand offs in Nevada ranches.

It is the least understood amendment in the Bill of Rights and is about nothing more than having the ability to create an army for the individual states or the nation if needed.

For all intents and purposes, it became obsolete after the Civil War.

So much ignorance in one post.

Too old and tired to come at you, bro. :lol:

[tiger7_88]

Pretty sure the guys who wrote the 2nd amendment believed in the right to protect ones property/family, hunt, etc.....as well as form a militia.

Those are basics that have been part of this country from the beginning.

I'm pretty sure the extremely literate Founders, if their intent was to limit firearm ownership to only organized militias or individual states, would have been able to clearly state that.

Instead, those same extremely literate founders chose to clearly state it was the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms.

Weird. Those silly, dumb, extremely literate Founders!

[TheRed]

Has there been even a shred of proof provided for this claim yet?

[teeray]

Has there been even a shred of proof provided for this claim yet?

This about the 2nd amendment!!! Stay on topic!!!

[tiger7_88]

Has there been even a shred of proof provided for this claim yet?

Not that I have seen. Only the girlfriends request for a restraining order.

[CRA]

if the panthers want to go that route, then he will get his mega-deal elsewhere. to me it would be a mistake to let this incident sway opinion, then again i think they made a mistake franchising him in the first place. this should be a non-issue. be worse if he was a problem in the locker room.

Incident has to factor in as well as all there other dealings with him....when considering if he is a safe enough guy to give a mega deal to.

Give a guy a mega deal....that doesn't make wise choices....and it hurts the franchise and your ability to win.

I like the Kraken. Best DE on our team. Potential to be on the league. Maybe Hardy made wise decisions that night and everything will resolve itself.

Getting arrested for domestic violence doesn't make you a woman beater. Cops haul people away from disputes. It happens. His 911 call sounds as if he handled a out of control chick the best he could. I got no beef with guns in homes....no matter the number.

[teeray]

I'm pretty sure the extremely literate Founders, if their intent was to limit firearm ownership to only organized militias or individual states, would have been able to clearly state that.

Instead, those same extremely literate founders chose to clearly state it was the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms.

Weird. Those silly, dumb, extremely literate Founders!

They did clearly state that in the preamble to the amendment. You guys want to read the second half only, not the first half or worse yet don't want to understand the purposes of the amendment itself

[TheRed]

Not that I have seen. Only the girlfriends request for a restraining order.

Seems Hardy has basically been tried and convicted before he even got out on bail.

[tiger7_88]

They did clearly state that in the preamble to the amendment. You guys want to read the second half only, not the first half or worse yet don't want to understand the purposes of the amendment itself

The second half is the primary clause.

If they didn't mean for THE PEOPLE to have the god-given (*not* state-granted) right to keep and bear arms, they would have just eliminated the modifying clause and said "The right of the well-regulated militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

The fact that they did NOT say that is a direct rebuke to your thinking that that's really what it says.

So, instead of reading the actual words... you know, the right of THE PEOPLE... you know what YOU want it to be, so you use dyslexic magic in your brain to spin it into exactly that.

Unfortunately for you, the words "the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms" are crystal damn clear as to their meaning, no matter how much mud you truly to cover them with.

Done.

[tiger7_88]

Seems Hardy has basically been tried and convicted before he even got out on bail.

Yep.

And then the girl was smeared and cursed after the 911 calls were released.

And still no one here or in the media knows a goddam thing, no matter how much they pretend they do.

[fjblair]

So what, so do I.