A Theory on Gettlebro's Strategy for the Offensive Line.

[SmootsDaddy89]

We all know Dave loves his Hog Mollies, and so do I (We are using this as an unflattering term for thick girls, right?)

 

He came from a team in New York that won two Super Bowls, largely thanks to a dominate defensive line and an offensive line that kept Eli Manning upright, allowing him to attempt poorly-thrown passes and get bailed out by his receivers.

 

Seattle this past year is another good example. Suffocating defensive line, and defense in general, and an offensive line that overpowers all who come before them!

 

 

Except, not so much on that last part. Russell Wilson was sacked on 9.6% of passing attempts last season. That's good for absolute worse in the NFL. Our game against them in the opener, where he ran around fearing for his life, was a sign of things to come for our defensive line that year. But it was also a sign of things to come for Russell Wilson. Seattle's offensive line couldn't block MadHatter trying to berate a welfare recipient if it were 5 on 1.

 

What they do an above-average job of is opening holes for Marshawn Lynch. Wilson has good numbers thanks in large part to the fact that he actually does really, really well when he's UNDER duress (remind you of anyone?) and he had receivers that could bail him out (that one shouldn't sound familiar) Wilson, like Cam, makes good decisions even with dudes in his face. And despite how terrible their line was, Seattle's done little more to help Russell than we have. They reached hard for a dude who probably won't even play anytime soon in the second round. That's it.

 

Which brings me to my theory: Dave wants guys who will bulldoze a path for our stable of RBs. Pass protection, for the short-term, will take a backseat. They're going to focus on opening up lanes and giving Cam security blankets for the inevitable situation where Byron Bell gets confused and thinks he's supposed to NOT block people.  Amini's best improvements his rookie year came in pulling out (not like that) and run-blocking. We just drafted a dude to probably start at one guard position whose favorite past time is showing dudes how good the turf smells during running plays.

 

I still think we'll take a tackle in short order on day three, but don't be surprised if he's of the road-grader variety. They're going to take advantage of Cam's mobility and count on that to mask O-Line woes, at least for this season, and hope it pays off as well for them as it did for Seattle last year.

[Ruff]

My problem with the "well, the Giants did it!" argument is that the NFL has changed since the Giants won their last Super Bowl. The Giants also won the Super Bowl with a statue QB, throwing passes from the pocket. We don't have that.

I like Gettleman. I don't agree with everything he does. But, he's done well so far. My only hope is that he adjusts with the NFL. Hurney never adjusted, and it screwed us in the short, and long, term.

[CPF4LIFE]

There are plenty of good OTs left that can come in play RT. Hope they decide and grab one early or they may wait.

[Rules&Regulations]

Cam Newton has been hit more than any other QB over the past 3 years. Whatever his plan is, it's been crap so far and is unacceptable at the moment.

Look how some of the other teams are drafting for their franchise QBs: linemen and weapons. We drafted a back-up DE in the second round instead of addressing a paper-thin OT situation on an OL that has allowed our supposed feanchise QB to get hit more than any other QB over the past 3 years.

[Rules&Regulations]

Also, the Giants stumbled into the playoffs in a weak division and got hot. Every time I hear the Giants excuse I wanna puke.

[toldozer]

Cam Newton has been hit more than any other QB over the past 3 years. Whatever his plan is, it's been crap so far and is unacceptable at the moment.

Look how some of the other teams are drafting for their franchise QBs: linemen and weapons. We drafted a back-up DE in the second round instead of addressing a paper-thin OT situation on an OL that has allowed our supposed feanchise QB to get hit more than any other QB over the past 3 years.

I think that stat is overstated. Cam takes very few hard hits IMO.

[Ken]

As long as he's not just drafting a guy just because we need a player at that position, I'm OK with what he's doing.

Teams like Miami and Buffalo constantly get burned for reaching and drafting for need in the draft.

[bleys]

My problem with the "well, the Giants did it!" argument is that the NFL has changed since the Giants won their last Super Bowl. The Giants also won the Super Bowl with a statue QB, throwing passes from the pocket. We don't have that.

I like Gettleman. I don't agree with everything he does. But, he's done well so far. My only hope is that he adjusts with the NFL. Hurney never adjusted, and it screwed us in the short, and long, term.

 

how exactly has the NFL changed in the last few years?  

[CPF4LIFE]

Like i said there are still pretty good road graders left that can come in and play RT. Both the stanford guys are still on the board, i really dont see another position right now with better value besides receiver. Thats just me. Hopefully we make a move.

[Ruff]

how exactly has the NFL changed in the last few years?

Running QBs, the receiving TE, the large CBs being favored, the move away from one RB to

Multiple (though, that one has been happening for about five or six years), pass rushing Sam LBs in 43 where they were just coverage guys before...

Have you not watched football over the course of the last decade?

[CPF4LIFE]

I like the upgrade at guard for Cam, maybe now he wont have to worry about OL getting drove back into his face when he stands in the pocket.

[PandaPancake]

My problem with the "well, the Giants did it!" argument is that the NFL has changed since the Giants won their last Super Bowl. The Giants also won the Super Bowl with a statue QB, throwing passes from the pocket. We don't have that.

I like Gettleman. I don't agree with everything he does. But, he's done well so far. My only hope is that he adjusts with the NFL. Hurney never adjusted, and it screwed us in the short, and long, term.

 

Explain how much the league has changed in 3-4 years.

[coralreefer_1]

Kind of out of the blue and forgive me for not making an entire thread to express this thought....

 

Really though, isnt it time to give the Bell hate a rest? The guy is on our team, and has apparently earned the respect of those who..you know, actually get paid big money to decide who is and is not on the team. He may not be an MVP candidate, but I think he deserves more respect than what many around here are giving him. The man has missed only one game in his three years here, commands a paultry 200,000+ salary cap this year, and is a big darn mofo to have up in there.

 

In fact, if we are doingt he adapt-a-panther again this year..i wanna adopt him for no other reason than I think he gets WAY too much hate around here than he deserves considering the above.

[bleys]

Running QBs, the receiving TE, the large CBs being favored, the move away from one RB to

Multiple (though, that one has been happening for about five or six years), pass rushing Sam LBs in 43 where they were just coverage guys before...

Have you not watched football over the course of the last decade?

 

typically, when people refer to any "Giants won the SB" arguments it has to do with valuing their pass rush as their major strength on defense.  

 

All of which you just pointed out as to why it's even more ingrained the last few years than it's changed.  

 

 

so yes, I've been watching.  What's your excuse?