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So I've been kicking around the idea that the 6th and 7th round is pointless


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He's is simply saying that the typical players who would get drafted high in the first round would find a way to avoid the draft and immediately become a free agent where teams would have to bid the highest to get them. This would eliminate the rookie pay scale and the blue chip rookies would start getting paid like they did pre rookie wage scale except not to the team with the highest pick, but the deepest pockets, which would also eliminate the parody of the draft all together.

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1. The supplemental draft was never created to prevent bidding wars. As a matter of fact, lol, the entire thing was originally concocted for al hunter to be able to enter the league and play football after he got caught trying to screw a girl when he was going to Notre Dame. The only time it was ever useful was when the USFL got shitcanned and all of a sudden a bunch of pro talent hit the open market.

2. It never stopped Bernie Kosar from doing the very thing that you think the supplemental draft protects against. Bernie Kosar ditched the draft in 1985 with the help of the Browns mortgaging their future to trade to the top of the supplemental draft to get him so that he could play in His home state. It's not foolproof like it's being suggested.

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Last few rounds are about finding role players and maybe an occasional diamond in the rough.

You need those guys too.

And you can do that just as well in undrafted free agency as you can in the last two rounds already

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And you can do that just as well in undrafted free agency as you can in the last two rounds already

 

You can, but it's more work.

 

Undrafted players are free to sign anywhere.  You have to negotiate with them.  And if they were high enough quality to be worth a 6th or 7th round pick under the current setup, that process would become tougher than it is already. 

 

Right now, they pick you and that's where you go and you sign the contract they hand you and that's it.  Losing those final two rounds would mean a whole lot more work for GMs and team personnel people.

 

For that reason alone, there's probably no chance of this happening.

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The league can definitely set it up so that there would be no bidding for UDFAs. There'd be a set limit they could be paid (no more than 6th rounders get paid to begin with for example) but the power the players have is that they could pick the team they sign a contract with, if they have more than one suitor for example.

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Would Greg Hardy have ever chose to sign with the panthers if he could go anywhere? How about Gordon to the Browns. Hell I doubt Brady would be a patriot. My point? It IS useful. Bad teams wouldn't have a shot at the potential late round held because those players don't want to go to small market or struggling franchises.

Getting rid if those rounds would be a very stupid idea. Sorry but it's true. Try again.

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The league can definitely set it up so that there would be no bidding for UDFAs. There'd be a set limit they could be paid (no more than 6th rounders get paid to begin with for example) but the power the players have is that they could pick the team they sign a contract with, if they have more than one suitor for example.

 

That'd be more than what they pay those guys now, though.

 

I can understand what you have in mind, but from the league's perspective, no way I see something like this even being considered.

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Also I don't see this negotiating being a problem because it already exists and it's not a problem

Given the already thin talent pool by the 6th round I don't think this adds a whole lot of significant talent to the UDFA process.

And instead of getting compensated with a measley 7th rounder for losing free agents, even if they did contribute more than the value you're being compensated for losing them, you'd be able to cash in with a 5th rounder which is better

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That'd be more than what they pay those guys now, though.

I can understand what you have in mind, but from the league's perspective, no way I see something like this even being considered.

The difference is negligible, if you can call it any kind of difference at all

Compare the cap number between last year's 6th round, first pick Josh Evans and our very own undrafted free agent Melvin White

http://overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=Melvin%20White&Position=S&Team=Panthers

http://overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=Joshua%20Evans&Position=S&Team=Jaguars

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Actually, based on the rookie pay scale, 6th rounders get league minimum for base salary, so based upon nfl cap metrics, money isn't going to be a problem

2012's first 6th round pick Greg Zeurlein and Vontaze Burfict (the most talented player that went undrafted that year) had identical base salaries

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