why the carolina panthers will not* go bpa

[Mr. Scot]

BPA can be anything your GM wants it to be, not necessarily based on scouting but philosophy.

 

The guy who ended up drafted was always the best player available.  Just ask the team.

 

I think where a lot of the misunderstanding comes in is people look at a draft board like it's a hard and fast list.  If it worked that way, you might as well have a computer do it.  Just plug the list into a program and have the computer automatically take the next guy with the highest overall score.  No discussion needed.

 

In reality, it's more flexible than that. 

 

Teams commonly have three or four guys rated about the same, and when the choice comes around they discuss who's the best option.  Mind you, there are times when they have one guy far and away better than the others available and when the time comes they're ready to just sprint to the podium with the pick (last year was an example) but most times there's discussion first.  Otherwise there'd be little need to allow ten minutes for the choice to be made.

 

But yeah, I do think going BPA is the smart choice.  As Strickland pointed out, need might be a tiebreaker.  If you let need make you reach though, as the GM pointed out, you have a pretty good chance of getting screwed,

[rmoneyg35]

BPA can be anything your GM wants it to be, not necessarily based on scouting but philosophy.

This is true. People keep saying that if we truly go BPA then we could draft a QB with our first pick but understand that our GM doesn't wants QB.

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[Mr. Scot]

This is true. People keep saying that if we truly go BPA then we could draft a QB with our first pick but understand that our GM doesn't wants QB.

 

The most specialized positions - quarterback, kicker and punter - tend to be exempted from the BPA process unless you have a pressing need.

 

[panthers55]

What Strickland explained is what I have been saying for months.  Draft boards don't have guys in a straight line ranking from top to bottom but assign value within each position group most of the time.  So you have guys who are ranked within their position but not necessarily across positions. Or if at 28th you are looking at the 8th ranked OT on your board versus the 2nd ranked corner you assume the corner has better value but maybe the 8th ranked OT is still a better value than the 2nd ranked corner.  Then you have the old if we don't pick an OT here by the time we get down here there will be no value versus at WR we can get similar value 30 picks later so we will go this direction instead.  These are not really need decisions so much as best value for where are picking which is often called BPA.

[LinvilleGorge]

All in all, I think micnificent may be the worst poster on this forum, but in this case I actually agree with him.

 

 

Which probably makes me an idiot.

[Mr. Scot]

What Strickland explained is what I have been saying for months.  Draft boards don't have guys in a straight line ranking from top to bottom but assign value within each position group most of the time.  So you have guys who are ranked within their position but not necessarily across positions. Or if at 28th you are looking at the 8th ranked OT on your board versus the 2nd ranked corner you assume the corner has better value but maybe the 8th ranked OT is still a better value than the 2nd ranked corner.  Then you have the old if we don't pick an OT here by the time we get down here there will be no value versus at WR we can get similar value 30 picks later so we will go this direction instead.  These are not really need decisions so much as best value for where are picking which is often called BPA.

 

I illustrate it as being like a top twenty list where three guys are tied for number four, number nine, number fifteen, etc

 

Much larger scale of course, but that's the idea.

 

[CharlottePanther]

No team drafts BPA. And what exactly is BPA anyway? Is it measurables? Stats? A combo of both? And if so why do so many WRs that had killer stats and good measurables are UDFA.

Does anyone really think if a QB or a MLB was rated as the bpa at our pick we would actually draft them? Ofcourse not. Our needs are WR, Oline and CB and because of that, we will be drafting one of those positions. What if Teddy Bridgewater is there at our pick? He would be the BPA but we wont take him, why? Because we dont NEED him.

Its simple. The first pick WILL be Oline, WR or CB. Period. Because those are our biggest needs

[tailg8or]

What Strickland explained is what I have been saying for months.  Draft boards don't have guys in a straight line ranking from top to bottom but assign value within each position group most of the time.  So you have guys who are ranked within their position but not necessarily across positions. Or if at 28th you are looking at the 8th ranked OT on your board versus the 2nd ranked corner you assume the corner has better value but maybe the 8th ranked OT is still a better value than the 2nd ranked corner.  Then you have the old if we don't pick an OT here by the time we get down here there will be no value versus at WR we can get similar value 30 picks later so we will go this direction instead.  These are not really need decisions so much as best value for where are picking which is often called BPA.

 

Agree.

 

A while back, DG indicated a goal from free agency is to enter the draft without any glaring needs.  He tried to bring in quality free agents at WR and LT, but lost out.  So .... we have glaring needs entering the draft.  Rds 1 and 2 will be OT and WR.  I believe Panthers said they have 10 OT / WRs with first round grades.  

 

Assuming Cooks and OBJ are gone by our pick,  I suspect Bitonio and Latimer / Matthews will be rds. 1 & 2.  I also believe the 49ers want OBJ / Cooks and will trade up to get one.  If they can't, they will jump in front of us to nab an OT.  Just a hunch.   

[LinvilleGorge]

No team drafts BPA. And what exactly is BPA anyway? Is it measurables? Stats? A combo of both? And if so why do so many WRs that had killer stats and good measurables are UDFA.

Does anyone really think if a QB or a MLB was rated as the bpa at our pick we would actually draft them? Ofcourse not. Our needs are WR, Oline and CB and because of that, we will be drafting one of those positions. What if Teddy Bridgewater is there at our pick? He would be the BPA but we wont take him, why? Because we dont NEED him.

Its simple. The first pick WILL be Oline, WR or CB. Period. Because those are our biggest needs

 

By and large I agree, but I wouldn't rule out DE due to our contract situations there or LB if a guy like Shazier is there due to TD's cap hit and injury history.  I do think that if the pick is a guy who isn't either an OT, WR, or CB then he'll have to be by far and away the BPA on Gettleman's board.  But, if a guy like Shazier is there at #28?  Hell, you almost HAVE to take him.

[Montsta]

No team drafts BPA. And what exactly is BPA anyway? Is it measurables? Stats? A combo of both? And if so why do so many WRs that had killer stats and good measurables are UDFA.

Does anyone really think if a QB or a MLB was rated as the bpa at our pick we would actually draft them? Ofcourse not. Our needs are WR, Oline and CB and because of that, we will be drafting one of those positions. What if Teddy Bridgewater is there at our pick? He would be the BPA but we wont take him, why? Because we dont NEED him.

Its simple. The first pick WILL be Oline, WR or CB. Period. Because those are our biggest needs

If there is a run on WR, O-line, and CB and then at our pick we have Ryan Shazier, 3rd round graded WR, 2nd round graded Tackle, and 2nd round graded CB I promise you we take Shazier. So we are not guaranteed to take those positions you mentioned.

[Jangler]

This is true. People keep saying that if we truly go BPA then we could draft a QB with our first pick but understand that our GM doesn't wants QB.

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I've been saying for weeks BPA doesn't necessarily mean BPA overall.

[CPF4LIFE]

The most specialized positions - quarterback, kicker and punter - tend to be exempted from the BPA process unless you have a pressing need.

 

 

BPA is BPA, If you are exempting then it is not BPA.

[Ruff]

Lol. Cat scratch reader is trash.

[Ruff]

BPA is BPA, If you are exempting then it is not BPA.

That's not true. Josh Norris recently talked about this on the BBR podcast. You should listen to it.