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Panthers director of college scouting Don Gregory believes "capable" starting receivers can be as found as late as the fourth round

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top dawg Grand Master

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So while I hope we go WR then OT, if there is a run on WR and OT in the first round to where Jarvis Landry and Billy Turner are the best available, you have to use your 28th overall on someone a hell of a lot better than that.

 

The complete post was excellent, I just fixed the end a little bit to my liking

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a) you choose an extreme exception to counter a general statement. This is intellectual laziness. That is like when someone makes a claim that people who smoke tend to live a shorter lives and someone chimes in with "well my grand dad was a smoker and lived to be 120!" It changes nothing and is irrelevant.

 

 

 

 

the above should be required reading to register for any forum on the entire interwebz

 

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We are still going BPA...you don't skip over BPA just because the class at his position is deep...won't happen.

 

 

I think that you're correct, but let me add that it's not a perfect science. So where the differences in perceived value may be the same or minuscule, a drafts perceived depth at one position may be a determining factor regarding whom you actually pick at the top.

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If we can find a game changing defensive player like a shut down corner we would be smart to ****** them.  Honestly we can find a wide receiver in the third round who is very close to a guy we can find at the end of the first round.  It isn't as if the 7th best receiver is that different from the 15 best receiver in this draft.  On the other hand the second best corner might be significantly better than the 5th or 6th ranked guy.  The same thing applies to an OL guy who is starter material.  If the drop off is dramatic after the first 5 guys but isn't at WR you have to pull the trigger and go elsewhere.  OL will help Cam more than another receiver.

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If we can find a game changing defensive player like a shut down corner we would be smart to ****** them.  Honestly we can find a wide receiver in the third round who is very close to a guy we can find at the end of the first round.  It isn't as if the 7th best receiver is that different from the 15 best receiver in this draft.  On the other hand the second best corner might be significantly better than the 5th or 6th ranked guy.  The same thing applies to an OL guy who is starter material.  If the drop off is dramatic after the first 5 guys but isn't at WR you have to pull the trigger and go elsewhere.  OL will help Cam more than another receiver.

 

I think all of this is a fallacy.  We hear it every year pre-draft, yet virtually every year, a couple of those prospects that were bunched up so tightly together as prospects usually end up being head and shoulders above the pack.  Just because all of the analysts say that these 6-8 or however many prospects are closely ranked doesn't mean the scouts and GMs agree.

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Will a 4th round WR from this draft become a long-term NFL starter?  Very possibly.

Will teams pass on a guy who they think will become a long-term NFL starter at WR three times in most cases and four times in some cases?  Not a chance in hell.

 

A 4th rounder who becomes a long-term starter is more of a case of getting lucky than it is being a genius and seeing something that other teams didn't.

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b ) Even in the example you provided you gave a third rounder. There is a huge drop off in talent from 3 to 4. Much more drastic than between rounds 2 and 3 or even 1 and 2. By the 4th round the best players of all the positions are gone, everyone else is a much greater crap shoot.

 

So, I will add just a few more....

 

Steve Largent....4th round

TJ Houshmandzaheh...7th rund

Joe Horn....5th round

Stevie Johnson....7th round

Marques Colston...7th round

Shannon Sharpe....7th round

Mike Wallace....3rd round

Emmanuel Sanders....3rd round

Antonio Brown....6th round

 

So....your statement was total bullshit (as usual).  Now STFU. :jig:

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