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At this point, don't think he can be counted on as anything more than hopeful depth. Whether that be OT or G even, pray he's not a complete waste of a pick and can be somebody's backup. 

Just now, rippadonn said:

 

Just posted above. Clip from the Office about wishing you knew you were in the good ol' days before they're gone

3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

What was it?

A short clip from the Office with Andy saying, "I wish there was a way to know you're in the good ol' days, before you've actually left them". 

Obviously possibly nothing and CMC reflecting on life, but kind of a random post and maybe not nothing. 

2 hours ago, Whatev said:

Wife is volunteering to give vaccine shots today at a church location in an underserved community.  All Cooper has to do is make teachers a priority and he can make it happen.  In fact, that could be done by Biden as well.  Kid suicide rates are skyrocketing.  Crime among the same demo is too.  Large numbers of kids have NEVER signed into a single zoom class.  
 

They should be leaders and get prioritization to teachers as front line health care workers were/are.

This isn't a disagreement with your post, but the mental health argument continues to get made by people who aren't in the building and who aren't seeing the same impact, flipped.  We've had multiple kids come back in person this year, get depressed at what school looks like now (no socializing essentially, stay in your bubble, masks, no group work or projects, no true recess, etc.), and they leave.  Kids who can be successful with online learning have left us because the in-person instruction isn't school.  It's remote learning daycare, which frankly is what most "concerned" parents want. 

With Senate Bill 37, we're also about to overcrowd classrooms based on spacing, block fire exits and doors, have kids sitting at the board where they literally can't even see the board, or friends, and cause another cluster fug.  One of the biggest problems continues to be made at county leadership and government levels, with people NOT in classrooms making every decision without actually talking to people living the life. 

Burns, Brown, and Chinn are untouchable in any proposed trade IMO. That's the future of our defense, don't destroy what could be great in a couple of years. 

CMC?  Have at it. Somebody let me know the last time a "great" RB had any significant impact on a Super Bowl run.  Because there's about a decade+ of Leonard Fournette and LeGarrette Blount types being starting RBs on teams that win it all. 

Also since we're reading social media tea leaves lately, CMC's Instagram story yesterday was a little odd

Two options for this cap space and both are with the understanding we're trading some draft picks this year.

1.  We get our vet QB - Watson, or Dak as the darkhorse.  Need the space there, also could use some to again bolster the OL. 

2.  We're shopping to fully rebuild the OL, with the knowledge we're trading up and bringing in a rookie QB.  Want to create the best space for them, which means a solid OL is needed.  Moton/Paradis/sign a LT with this freed up space and then fill in the gaps in the mid rounds of the draft. 

Obviously some of the shopping could be coming on the defensive side of the ball, but I just have a hard time seeing us spend capital on LBs and Safeties when our OL and QB positions are the most dire needs.

No harm in calling and offering something crazy.  The Jags won't take it, but still worth the call. 

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

A good number of people on here called last year a half-assed effort at rebuilding and complained that we didn't go all in.

Did they have a point?

Yep.

As soon as we signed Teddy, we shot ourselves in the foot by increasing our floor yet having a ceiling of 3rd place staring us down. This should've been torn down, clear the cap, and load up on picks where we could.  There was zero reason to "compete" this year, with so many unknowns, a ton of dead cap, and so many changes. It was time to gain assets and rebuild the "right" way. We failed.  

Now?  We're staring down the barrel of trading the farm for a QB, or stuck in a no-man's land of mediocrity where we'll probably....have to trade up for a QB at some point. And then pray he's the answer.  Our 2020 decisions led this team to slim options, and both require probably trading a ton of capital to answer our QB question. 

Go back in time, tear this thing down, don't sign Teddy.  We're looking at drafting Lawrence or Wilson without a trade up right now, or an easier trade for Watson.  Instead, we're fighting about how many 1st rounders and our future we have to give up.  Hope those couple extra wins and early dreams of Teddy being legit were worth it. 

Call the Bears and get them to do the Foles trade 2.0.  Give us a 4th or 5th, you can have Teddy. 

If they were willing to possibly trade a 1st or 2nd for Wentz...Teddy for a 4th or 5th honestly may be a better bet. He's limited, but he's not shot like Wentz seems to be. 

Reddick makes sense with the Rhule connection but scares the hell out of me.  Never trust a dude who only produces in a contract year. 

On 2/16/2021 at 10:20 AM, CRA said:

Not sure how accurate it is...but if you are into leaks and spoilers, apparently stuff on the next episode leaked and the finale.  
 

could be bunk but they claim the same account leaked accurate stuff before. 

Any leaks on who the "surprise" person is?  I'm thinking Rambeau's friend they're going to meet is misdirection before somebody huge shows up in the finale. 

How many games are we winning next year with CMC back, an improved defense, and even Teddy being his usual average and boring self?  7, 8? We're not sniffing the Top 5 picks, probably not the Top 10.  Which leads us to the '22 Draft and trading our 1st, a future 1st, and more to jump up and draft an unknown. 

Best case scenario is obviously drafting a rookie QB who becomes a franchise guy.  But in our current position, and probable future one next year, it's highly unlikely we find a QB unless we essentially spend at least 2 1st rounders in a trade of some sort. 

IF the difference in getting Watson or a rookie QB is only one 1st rounder and another piece...give me the sure thing.  The idea that we're magically going to suck enough next year on what "should" be an improved roster to even sniff a Sam Howell is crazy to me. 

Spend 2 first rounders+ to trade up for an unknown rookie and pray he's legit...or spend 3 first rounders+ on a Top 5 QB now.  Kind of an easy decision to me. 

I like not making it a June 1st cut and just eating all of that money this year.  Realistically, we're not competing for anything next year.  But beyond that? Try to have the cap as clear as possible so we're not consistently taking decent percentages of dead cap with us each and every year. 

Now tag Moton and try to work out a deal ASAP

57 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Start PJ and say you are evaluating whats on your roster.  Nobody would have thought twice about that seeing how bad teddy was playing

This, with either PJ or Grier.  By the time the Washington game rolled around, we weren't making the playoffs, and we knew what Teddy was.  Giving PJ another shot, or seeing if Grier could do literally anything besides hold a clipboard, is how the year should've ended. 

6 hours ago, bythenbrs said:

You already know the answer.  Say it with me, 'Build the offensive line.'  Here's another phrase to embrace; say it with me now, 'If we build it, he (quality future FA QB) will come."

My work here is now complete...

That's the thing though...how many franchise QBs ever actually hit FA?  

IF we can't get "our guy" at QB, building the lines is obviously the best thing to do. I'd LOVE to finally have a Top 10 OL again.  

Doing so though, probably means we're stuck at QB and having this same conversation next year.  Realistically, a 2nd or 3rd round QB won't be our answer if we go that route. Can't trot Teddy out, so welcome aboard a bridge FA in the Fitzmagic role where our draft pick is middling again and we're trading up in the draft. Nuclear option, it's the year of Grier.  Let him play the Clausen role, suck it up, and we draft in the Top 5 in 2022 with a rebuilt OL and continually growing defense.  But, are we really going to openly regress and set the team back?  What message is that sending? 

Bottom line, half-assing the rebuild limited our options in so many ways baring a complete homerun of a draft this year.  Tepper/Hurney/Rhule/whoever screwed this team over by talking themselves into Teddy B to compete for 3rd place in the NFC South.  It's going to be a little chicken or egg scenario this year, where do we draft our QB and let him possibly get killed behind our OL, or do we build the OL and put the QB question off again. 

Still not the year to go shopping IMO.  Re-sign Moton, fill out the roster with high potential low cost guys and see what sticks again.  If we spend anywhere, it should obviously be on the lines. 

Being reckless with the cap, in what's still a rebuild, compounded with a probable rookie QB who may not pan out doesn't make much sense and could cause a hard reset again. 

Zero chance we keep Teddy at this point, so seems all but certain we trade up for whoever we deem our guy in the draft.

Which also scares me, because if we had a "guy", I doubt we'd have been in on Stafford to begin with.  

Predictable 

Torn at this point on the entire QB saga. 

On one hand...if we're willing to throw ALL the picks and players at the Texans for Watson, is that a signal we don't believe in any of the 3 QBs we could draft? Makes a helluva lot more sense to sit pat or trade up at a lesser cost if we think there's a franchise guy available in the draft. 

On the other hand...it's still going to cost a lot to possibly trade up to 3 or 5 to secure our rookie QB.  At that point, is the cost to get Watson more palatable when looking at the risk of an unknown? 

On top of that, we've backed ourselves into a corner where we can't trot Teddy out and have to find a new QB.  So, which splurge trade are we going with?  Costly but sure thing that's detrimental to team building and gives us a slim margin of error drafting, or less costly risk that's a question mark and could land us right back here again?  Or does the team strike out in general and have to bite on a Tribiscuit or Darnold type and try to sell "potential, bad situation, blah blah"? 

Just ready for a conclusion at this point.

Glorious thread title if nothing else

Seems she might be alluding to female reporters...?  In context of reporters who suck at reporting, or who are undercover thotpockets?  Maybe we've got some reporters (hell, male or female) who are trying to hoe it up for information. 

1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

Jalen Hurts

If we strike out on Deshaun and miss our top draft guys, that's one hell of a dark horse candidate that I could get behind.  Eagles might be open to moving him to coddle Wentz's hurt feelings and we grab a guy with potential for "cheap". 

6 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Atlanta is in cap hell and they have huge needs on defense and the OL.  QB is decent and they can't get out of his contract.  It makes no logical sense to take a QB this year.  It makes perfect sense to trade back, get some additional picks that can replace the bigger contracts, do some cutting, and get a QB in 2022 or 2023.  Getting a QB to sit the bench in 2021 is not the right move, IMO

Agreed completely. Drafting a QB, despite being such a high pick this year, basically makes the end of the Matt Ryan/Julio Jones run a lame duck approach.  That "end" might not just be next year, either.  Contract wise, honestly Julio and Ryan could be there 2 more years. 

Their best move is to draft defense and OL like you said, hope the new coach brings magic year one, and try making the playoffs next year with a well-rounded team. Spending a 1st rounder on a QB basically tells Ryan and Julio thanks for all those fun times, but you're never winning here again. Collect some checks until we trade you in a year or two. 

10 minutes ago, Beerfacedlegend said:

Just like Tom Brady , people act like watching highlight tapes they know what’s going on vs me that watched hours of film study on Mac jones 

I don't think you're capable of getting this, or too committed to the troll, but the idea of comparing Mac Jones to Tom Brady is insane at best, and downright idiotic if nothing else. 

Tom Brady was a literal needle in a haystack find, who turned into the GOAT. Literally, no other example even makes sense.  Compare a young college basketball player to Michael Jordan?  Idiotic.  But even with that, Jordan was at least a top prospect. Comparing ANYONE to Brady, where he was drafted, his scouting report, etc. is just stupid.  If anything, you comparing Mac Jones to Brady the prospect means he should be a...6th rounder?  Shows he doesn't have the tools to be considered a top draft pick?  Again, the endgame here is either you can't count to potato, or you're trolling.