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it could be that it takes a half season or so for us to get stuff worked out. bucs got off to a relatively slow start with their offense before it started clicking. i expect a positive transformation. i don't expect it to be quick, though.

you have to imagine that he really just doesn't want to be a HC. after twice pulling out that would kind of seal the deal for me in the future. if you're looking for a coach, don't sit and hope for him. just get a guy who isn't wishywashy on the decision. get a guy who who knows he wants the job.

sorry for what you're going through but glad you're taking that on for your brother. as far as churches go, i know a lot of them are dealing with, ultimately, limited real estate (so to speak) so they limit plots to members of the churches themselves and their families. there's not a lot of newer churches that are doing this kind of thing anymore, though, so i imagine that spaces available are kind of running out. i would just do what you can. speak with the churches themselves and see what you can work out and hopefully one of them will, especially since you have family there already.

because the discussions always ends up taking a tinderbox bent. you want to debate or rehash all this stuff then take it somewhere else. same talking points keep getting brought up as if no one has heard it before. it's a constant beating of a dead horse. more, it's not football.

keep it to football and it's ok. pretty simple.

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stuff he said heading into tampa pointed in the direction of being pretty adaptive and opportunistic...run if it's working, pass if it's working. with his emphasis on protecting the ball, i'd count on a lot of running and a lot of shorter high percentage passes. but i think he's also going to be pushing the run a good bit. the goal, i think, is to be able to be balanced and proficient in passing game and run game so you can switch to or lean on either one as needed. if it goes the way it did in tampa, he's going to keep pushing some elements of it when it isn't working all that well until it is working.

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2nd thoughts about leggette if he can't get separation I don't want him.

he doesn't put bryce into that category. the rest of the team is who he was calling out. they don't have that fight in them.

you might be confused because you are not dan. the real dan does not view bryce as a mistake (which was part of the reason he was hired), neither does the owner of the team (which is why he hired someone who doesn't believe bryce was a mistake) and canales was given the job because of what he said he would be able to do with bryce.

what i've seen, though, is a crew who do nothing but poo all over any comment at all that comes across as positive or hopeful. doubts are fine and to be expected, but to just come out and attack any remotely positive comment or take is just not necessary. some absolutely hate everything the panthers do now. i get that and it's probably deserved. but for those who are trying to find and may have found reasons to be hopeful, it's just not necessary. you may not be one of the miserable ones i was talking about, but there are a few who have been that. the main thing i was addressing, though, is i think there are some who want to feel hopeful and are struggling to and i was just giving them permission. and they should feel free to do that without having someone who hasn't seen a reason to be hopeful attacking their traces of optimism.

if canales can do what he's supposedly done and can do, then he will be 1) helping bryce improve what he does already and 2) scheme around what bryce does and doesn't do well. if the deep ball is a problem for bryce, canales will scheme around it and if canales is good at what he's supposed to be doing, it will work. basically the deep ball is not a problem for me. getting bryce coached up and the offense schemed around him is what i'm looking for.

if we aren't in the playoffs by then, this will have been another fail. btw, i think we're in the playoffs in 2 years.

couple things that i went away with watching it... 1) unless your name is Bryce Young, no one on that roster was safe. Morgan kept referring to the old guys as far as what he's looking for and, more telling, that was what he wanted to bring in. he didn't talk about the guys on the roster currently having the fight that he was looking for. he didn't mention any of them. that was them being put on notice. 2) the whole offense is going to be built around what Bryce can do, but they were going to take what Bryce does and build on it. Help him get better at what he does naturally and then build around him. 3) dan isn't going to mess around. what he did as an LB, he's going to do as a GM. 4) old players came back around just for show last year. this year it's because they support dan as GM and believe he can bring back what we've lost 5) dan pretty much called this team we've fielded the last couple years weak and impotent. he was a part of that, but it doesn't sound like he was happy with what was done and part of me thinks he was just sitting back and biding his time, let fitt hang himself and situate himself just right with tepper that he could be handed the reigns. 6) i really think that dan and canales are the right men for the job and their ability to work together is really going to get this team right. i'm just a fan of this stuation. all that said, only way to tell if these two are the right two is additions to the win column...but i'm starting to feel good about the direction the team is going. i've been wrong before. hopefully i won't this time. btw...it's totally ok to feel ok and hopeful and optimistic about the team right now. the alternatives are either being apathetic or just flat out miserable. life's to short to be either of those two. look for the positive and allow yourself to be set up to be disappointed. gives you a break from the misery.

Absolutely.

dragging deer out of heavy brush/briars after taking nearly an hour to find it was always so much fun, especially in the dark and below freezing. painful, but i felt like i deserved it.

throwing a drink at a fan was hopefully his low moment that made him realize he needs to back off. i was who i was for over a decade and it wasn't good. i reached a low point and took another direction in life and now i'm not that same guy i was back then. i'm hoping that he understands that now. for the sake of the team, i hope he's learned more of what and who not to be as the owner and he's turning it over to someone else.

very interesting. he hadn't been the "play caller" but he has been the guy in tough crunch times that they put on the mic to talk to the QB and get things worked out. he's the guy that gets QBs heads straight and feeling confident. i like it.

sorry...i know you didn't want a book, but the first few just talked about his nature and attitude. the guy is really passionate about coaching and has super high energy that is infectious. he's out there and involved on the practice field. the first one was a conversation with tony dungy and he was giving credit to russel wilson for helping him understand the QB position more (this was while canales was working with WRs). the 4th clip is from guys at pewter report talking about what they are excited about (a lot of the same things from the above) and what they are seeing from a mic'd up practice. the 5th is that interview with that lady on the bucs media team, which is a really good interview if you haven't seen it. in it the thing that sticks out to me is that he wants to look at what the team does really well, what passing plays and run plays that work and the team feel confident in so when the team gets in crucial situations he can call plays that make the players excited and confident going into it. he's a confidence builder and he gives players a reason to feel confident by making them feel good about what they do well and helping them get better at the things they need to get better at. one thing that they also talk about is something that i really try to do with my job in management. i get moved to departments where there is a struggle with morale and a bit of drama going on and a lot of time it kind of stems from management they have had before that either started, contributed to, or brushed aside it all. people come to work already hating their job and dreading their day and it's hard to get a lot out of them and then they leave feeling unappreciated with no desire to come back the next day. i try to get them started off with a bit of a positive tone, usually just laughing at me because i'm a bit of a goofball and when they leave i try not to have any day where i don't tell them that i appreciate them and the job they did. morale improves, drama level drops, and production stays up. they don't dread the day. they start off with either a laugh or just shaking their head at me because i'm an idiot and they leave hearing someone say "good job" and meaning it. they may not love their job, but i think i help make it more bearable. canales has a different way of doing it being this high energy guy who is constantly trying to motivate and encourage the players and make it not just fun but help the players feel good about being there, which is something these guys really need. regardless of how much you get paid, coming to work each day can be a miserable experience or a positive one and typically management can help it become one or the other. 6th clip is i guess his introductory presser with the bucs talking about his philosophy and number 1 priority being the ball and making sure it's taken care of and that all 11 on the field are working together towards the same thing. 7th is his idea of culture, which is what that particular group celebrates. what things they value the most as a group. it makes sense. help the group find what drives (or what would drive) them and then build on that. he then talks a bit about how they point out and address the things that they need to get rid of. show clips of 10 plays....8 will be things with a lot of good in them and then 2 will be horrible things they need to correct right away, but in the way you address them you do it in a way that is fun, but to the point...not demeaning to the player(s) involved tearing them down. (another thing i try to do). 8th is basically some life coaching stuff on how to be a decent human that people can depend on. it comes with a christian bent, but for the most part it's stuff that most people can relate to and benefit from. it comes from a place where he recognized his mistakes and what he needed to do to either avoid it or make it right. the last one was a lot of personal stuff about his marriage, how he messed stuff up, wrestled with hypocrisy as a man of faith, coming clean with his wife and owning everything, and then getting stuff right in his life. not football stuff, but good "getting better as people" stuff that would help cut down on personal drama with the players and help them get their heads in the game more.

my favorite pick at #33. hope we can get him. his work/success with rattler and rattler's kind of throwing i think are exactly what we need with bryce. speaking of rattler, i wouldn't mind picking him up as well if he happens to fall to a later round.

if we can get over 5 wins i would almost take that as a success. 7 wins is as good as the playoffs, imo. i don't really expect much except some improvement and something positive to build on.