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Because he may not have had coaching from professional coaches? i don't know and i don't know how rudimentary the teaching is, but i do know that it's open to interpretation based on what canales is saying and it's very easy to make the jump to he's having to be retaught everything from the very start for someone who thinks he's a garbage QB anyways. every QB can be and should be taught and retaught some fundamentals from time to time to get them back on track when some bad habits have formed over time.

he would be a good option....if he can stay healthy, which i don't think anyone is sure he can. they are probably following his progress and i think they would love the fact that he isn't just good at the whole center thing, but he has worked along side hunt. wouldn't be bad to have him paired up again. i just wouldn't want to have to rely on him. he might be an after draft guy if we don't get one there that looks like he could start.

i do think we will either see significant growth or not and if not then we need to be moving on. he doesn't have to be the whole package this year, just a lot better than last year. but if we keep seeing the same thing, just do like we did with burns this year and take our medicine and move on.

the (bad) luck we've had with perpetually injured players over the years has e hitting the brakes with this one. i love the potential havoc he can bring. i hate the potential to get and stay hurt.

or just these people who haven't made up their minds on BY and want to see if a new coaching staff and rebuilt scheme and offense around him can make something happen. we're working with incomplete information due to an incompetent staff and hoping that this year it will be better.

he was a hot name at the time. tepper likes his hot names.

i think the coaching staff was oblivious to everything. they got caught up in this idea that Bryce was a "ready to go in all regards on day one" type QB. They had unrealistic expectations, thinking that he would be able to manage everything from the field. they saw him as a rookie with a vet's mind and did nothing to help develop, largely because they were so focused on the ideal of him than the reality of him. i still believe that he can be a really good QB...maybe even elite some day. but that potential is/was there for baker, darnold, and so many other failed really early picks. teams (and fans) had unrealistic expectations for what they believed an early pick QB could or should be and they were set up for failure. it's not that they weren't capable of succeeding, they were put into crappy situations where they couldn't get the developmental coaching they needed and should have been given. you work around what you actually have, not what you think you have or should have gotten. you are drafting a kid who has a lot of growing to do in all regards. you draft based on potential and then you focus all your energy into helping him grow into that potential. no QB entering the league should be expected to be ready day 1 without a poo ton of work put in ahead of time and even then there should be given an allowance for unforeseen issues that need to be addressed and everything you do in building an offense around a QB you plan to have leading your franchise should make the transition to the pro game easier for him by having an uncomplicated offense, solid run game to rely heavily on, and an OL to protect him. To expect any QB to jump in and run an offense like an old pro in his first year is just unrealistic.

i will say that when i watched his "highlights" from last year i came away bored and i'm not sure i even made t through them, but a lot of that just has to do with just the absolute clusterf*ck last season was...and that he contributed to. i was underwhelmed, but i still just don't think that last year told us much about what he's capable or not capable of. i think what it did effectively do is put Bryce in the worst possible situations and overall just did a great job of showing where he needs work. nothing was hidden and all limitations were exposed. this year. we are banking on 3 things: 1) that Canales can show Bryce a better way of doing QB 2) that canales can build an offense around what Bryce can do as an improved version of himself, 3) that bryce can make whatever adjustments need to be made to become that improved version of himself. is it work that we should have to do for a QB we sold the farm for? right now, that's just a question that doesn't matter. it's hindsight. what matters isn't what we should have done. what matters is what can be done now with who we have and i think everyone would benefit from having an open mind about it and just watch and see when we've got something to watch and see. at this point in the season, all we've got are words and the laying out of a plan to deal with Bryce. Again, should we have to work hard to come up with a plan to deal with Bryce? Again, it's a question that doesn't matter at the moment. We've got who we've got and we've got the situation we've got and we just have to hope that Canales can get it worked out, because the alternative is another few years of poo.

this is something that should have been addressed last year and maybe would have if the coaching staff wasn't more involved in whatever pissing match they had going on with each other. listening to canales, it just seems like he has so much more knowledge about what can and needs to be done with any QB than we got from any of our "dream team coaching staff" from last year.

but you also don't expect your QB1 that you gave up the farm for being on a team that has the most dysfunctional coaching staff and a HC that gets fired 11 games into their first season because no one on the coaching staff could agree on anything pertaining to the offense or the QB. and for ANY QB taken at any point in the draft, in his first year or two you want to have a system that makes it easier for the QB to acclimate where the OL is stout and the run game is strong. you need to give your QB1 early on a chance to grow without being forced into some high powered passing offense because you NEVER know for sure just what all needs to be worked out until you see them in action and you discover what can be done and what needs helped in your pro offense. i think people just have some unrealistic expectations and standards for a rookie taken in the first round, especially first overall.

i think reich wanted carr. reich is an old dog (not "dawg") who just wasn't interested in learning any new tricks or teaching any. i agree with just about everything else. there was too much bad poo going on around the whole situation to properly evaluate and develop any rookie QB. and yes, a #1 overall pick or any rookie QB will have to have things worked on and thinking they shouldn't is just not an opinion based on reality. and thinking we saw enough last year from BY to think he's garbage is just as narrow minded, but whatever... this year we will see what he can do and where he can or can't grow. last year was a throw away year except in giving Canales tape to see what they can work on.

They are typically mindless fans. People with homer glasses on will think every player on the roster is awesome, every acquisition was genius, and every loss of a player was the best move because they weren't that great anyways. Steeler fans are the cowboy fans of the north. I wouldn't exactly consider them and their opinions of any former or current player as objective at all.

Y'all are right.... Lol

If the guy gets open and catches the ball, why would that not be something to get excited about?

You should try. Life will be better once you accept the things you cannot change and hope that it will be better than you think.

We take what we can get.

Or a vet willing to get a pay check.

It depends on what you want for that roster spot. We get an extra one for emergency QB.

That's who I'm thinking as well. Canales wants a brain trust who could step in if needed. Focus isn't really on being a backup as much as someone to offer .02 in the classroom and sidelines. I would like a developmental guy as well. Just makes sense to do that, but I see where Canales is going.

Lol just a little defensive here.

Better use of energy than expecting things to go south

Or not.

Meh... he'll be fine

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