rayzor

They need a grown-up

We'll be their "get right game". That's the role we play in the league now.

Or we just need an OC that knows what to do with the players he's got. And pooing me?

Nope. We need a much better OL, we need a much better OC, and we need a WB who doesn't throw an INT to start the game, plus WRs who don't drop half the balls that come their way. The problems go way deeper than just one guy.

Take him. Take him now.

We'll have a better first round pick.

He's simply just being outcoached. He might get better, but right now he's being taken to the woodshed weekly.

It actually is. We're fugged. We needed that win to recover. Losing like that demoralizes a team. They are too young to recover from this. This season is done. We'll win a few more, but this team can't keep from tripping over their own feet.

This thread.

Oh good grief. The drama. Grownups acting like frikkin 6 year olds.

Or, most likely, he just sucks. Because quality OL depth is so rare, you don't let it go...you don't just let it walk.

You won't be finding it here for much longer if you keep it up.

If you fling poo at the wall to see what sticks, you're still going to be stuck with poo. Sorry, just not interested. With this league being as OL needy as it is, unemployed OL are unemployed for a reason. They suck. We have enough of that here. Don't want more.

Didn't answer my question. You don't talk about the team. You talk about other posters. That's all you do. Your response tells me you let other people dictate what you do and how you act...your life here is a reaction to everyone else. Seems kind of miserable to me.

When was the last time you made a comment in here that wasn't some snarky commentary on what other people were posting?

Can we pick 'em or what?

A good OC would make the best of who he has and what they do and don't bring to the table, not who the OC wish they had or what the OC wishes they could do. That's the problem we consistently have here. That was the problem with Chud (who had no situational awareness) or Shula, (who had no idea how to use Chud's playbook and only had a job in the NFL because of his dad), or Norv (who had forgotten how to run an O), or Davidson (who didn't have a clue). Brady hasn't figured out that you might need to change what you do based on what is happening on the field and who he has at his disposal. In that way he's like Chud trending at the moment towards Davidson.

So basically we have a coaching staff that is hearing all the noise from the outside world about how the interior of the OL is fugged up with Miller especially and the coach does a big "fug you all" and keeps the worst lineup in place? Welcome back to the Fox years.

Might just be me, but 1) I don't care about being proven right about anything (because I'm just as likely to be wrong and I realize it's a flip of the coin either way) and 2) I don't want to be proven right about something bad happening and I definitely don't want credit for those kind of calls. No pat on the back. I don't want to be able to say "I told you so" especially on something that I wish I hadn't been right about because it doesn't make anything better...just an ego stroke that nobody else will really care about.

Yeah I agree. Jake had traveled a long road to get where he was and he came with a level of maturity that came from just being an older guy. He has his own battles he had fought to get where he was and was ready to fight and be "that guy" as soon as he stepped into that huddle. I think Sam can be that guy and they need him to be that guy, but he's still early on that journey. They all are. They're going to have to fight together and in doing that they'll learn who it is they can count on to get them right. And who it is that can get them right will emerge, he'll find out that he's that guy.

Yep. They have to battle together to gain confidence in each other and for that guy to rise up. It will happen, but not overnight.

The guys on the field need one of their own out on the field with them. Coaches need to help get the players heads straight too, but they really need someone on the field with them, that guy in the huddle and in between plays for individual players who in real time hold them accountable and get them focused and help them shake it off when they fug up.

Oh, and the answer is no one....not yet. Team's too young/new.

He's talking about that guy on the field who, when everything is falling apart and everyone is frazzled and/or feeling like it's out of control, will rally the guys together and get them to pull their poo together.

I predict it will be ugly. Win or lose, it will be ugly. That's all I will predict.