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I think that's giving them a lot more credit than they deserve. They're not that smart. They're just holding on hoping that something works and they're too cocky to realize they are in over their heads.

I think we've got a lot of good players, but there's not really a core group that is this team's identity. It's just a bunch of players. Not a bunch of panthers. Any of them could go and I wouldn't blink. First time ever I've thought of the team like that. Tepper/Rhule has destroyed our identity. I mean we weren't really a great team, but we had these players that you'd have a lot of pride in and that you'd call the faces of the team. We just don't have that anymore.

PJ Walker = Brenton Bersin

Silver lining

Losing with Rhule has taken away the enjoyment of being a fan. People are pissed. It's ok. You can be a fan of a team and be pissed at the direction they're going.

How much experience calling an offense has he had? How recent?

Come up with something positive then.

I'm checked out til Rhule is kicked out. You super fans enjoy the sludge show.

Honestly I don't even care. I won my fantasy league at work last week and I quit watching panthers a few weeks ago. I really don't have any interest in watching any of it right now.

That's our identity. That's where we've been. That's where we'll stay. And I'm bored of it.

There's a reason he filled up the roster with former players. He was more interested in having a team that hung on his every word and put him on a pedestal than winning games.

That's just mean

That's what I'm seeing as well. Start off hot and then drop off a cliff.

If Rhule is still here, does it matter?

Good. Pretty useless metric when evaluating who would make for a talented player or teammate.

The big thing is....I really don't trust this coaching staffs evaluation process when it comes to offense, esp. OL and QB. If we had someone competent making the decision I would have no problem taking a center with pick #6 if he could be the caliber guy Kalil was. Kalil was an anchor we needed on the OL and I wish we could have built around better. I just don't trust these clowns to do anything right on the OL and not sure why anyone would trust them.

Was Ryan Kalil worth a first round pick? I know we didn't give up one for him, but if we had would it have been worth it?

Switch out a scared QB for another scared QB? Trading for bags of poo

Must be nice to be in that situation.

Shaw's battling against this new culture Rhule has allowed to come in.

Biggest and best investment we could make in the OL is getting a new HC

This is what "it's 1000% working" looks like.