rayzor

From the article you linked "Franchise quarterbacks, who can control their destination, have had no desire to come here. "

This. If you want someone else for this year, don't give up too much. Don't sell yourself on the idea that you've just got to find your guy this year or else and hope that one of these guys is it, because it's not. And don't trade for anyone. Not this year. Get everything ready for your QB to step in and make sure he has all the pieces in place for him to succeed before you bring him in, because if you don't do it before, you won't do it. You'll always be trying to play catch up like we did with Cam and you'll always come up short .

They'll have the spin machine out in full force, no doubt. Gonna be hard to spin this poo, but they'll try and several homers with rose colored glasses will buy it and preach it, looking down their noses at all the "fake fans" who criticize the team. I'm just interested to see what that spin will be.

I do appreciate that Tepper keeps swinging and is wanting to go big time in getting us a franchise QB and getting us a big name head coach (which Rhule was at the time in hype alone). JR didn't really go for that kind of thing. The fact that JR was ok drafting Cam was a shock, tbh. Tepper was, essentially, just a fan of the game when he bought the team. He has an idea of what he wants, which is a big time championship winning team. He just needs to let someone else build it for him until he gets a few more years under his belt managing a team and spends more time learning from people that aren't Hurney and Rhule. He's got Fitt and Dan Morgan with him now so hopefully he will start listening to them. I'm hoping that eventually he'll get it and can build a championship team. Right now, though, he's got all the ambition without the now how and experience. He's throwing a lot of punches but hitting air. Sometimes you have to accept you don't know what you're doing just listen and learn from experience and a few people who know their poo. Hopefully that's what Tepper is doing. The problem is that takes humility and people with that much money aren't really known for that so I'm not holding my breath. But, if nothing else, this thing with Watson was a humbling experience so maybe he got a bit of it. We'll see.

You're right. That's what they'll do, but it will be the wrong move.

That's what I see him doing.

Whether or not Rhule was actually a deciding factor in Watson's decision doesn't matter. I just hope that Tepper blames it on Rhule and moves on from him.

Sam sucks, but he's the penance that this franchise must pay for our (well, Rhule's) mistakes and errors of judgement. I don't want us to intentionally tank. I don't want us to lose. I just think that it's going to happen naturally. My eyes are on 2023 when we've hopefully moved on from Rhule, but have shored up the OL and can score us a true franchise QB.

I'm not sure we deserve the 'keep pounding' chant/motto anymore. More like 'getting pounded'. Got to give Tepper some props, he didn't give up. He just doesn't know how to win anything. He just knows how to buy.

It's a permanent condition with him. He had rose colored lasik surgery.

This year second round. Every other year he'd be a 4th round guy. I just really don't like any of them and would rather we use our first round on OL. I don't expect much from 4th rounders and beyond.

Oof.

Just don't trade for anyone. FA and draft picks. That's all.

For posterity.

Lol what a hack. Sorry to all you who believed this clown and kept talking to him. I tried to tell you.

Good

Yeah I just don't feel good about that guy or really any of them this year. Willis is the closest to being interesting, but he's like 2nd round interesting.

I think the realistic goal for 2022 is just getting through the season and the realistic hope is getting through without messing too much up for the 2023 season. Fixing QB is not realistic the season, but fixing a lot of other crap is realistic, especially the OL so just focus on that. If Rhule can manage a deep playoff run this year with this crew, he deserves to pick a QB next year. I don't have a problem drafting a be QB late or just getting some FA thats hanging around to carry us through the season, but don't expect much from there this year. Just fix everything else without trading for anyone.

I'd rather play with Carr than Rodgers, too. Rodgers is an ass and it's not like the Packers are going to win another ring anyways. Not with Rodgers.

We shouldn't be trading for anyone this year.

Considering what these goofballs gave up for him, he should be the starter just as a consequence for making piss poor decisions. It will suck as a fan, but I was writing this team off anyways.

Well, we missed out again.

I've said that before. He's not a bad QB at all, just incredibly unlucky. Whoever hires him gets lucky, though, because then they end up finding their guy after Tyrod gets hurt.

Not me. I'd rather some other team overpay for him. I'd rather we didn't trade for anyone this year.