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I meant as a mod I hate the title. Means people will be reporting it like they do half of @TheSpecialJuan threads. Other than that I've got no issues. I think it would actually work out and I don't think the height issue is what people make it out to be

I hate the title. Wouldnt like it at 33, but I would like him later.

gonna have to listen to that when i've got a LOT more time i do want to listen to it, though.

i don't think he cares if his stock goes down. he doesn't want to play for a bottom feeding team. that's what it all boils down to.

i see us going either WR or EDGE at 33. Possibly TE if it's Ja'Tavion Sanders. i want us to get a pass catcher there, but i think we can go for an EDGE there and still come away with a couple really good pass catchers. we can also trade back a bit, pick up an extra pick or two, and still walk away with a really good WR or two. this class is just stacked.

Add quality depth on OL (3-4), including vet competition for the interior OL. Add a vet WR (Ridley or Marquis Brown - cost effective and an upgrade from what we've had) Add a vet TE like Dalton Schultz or Gerald Everette (both moderately priced and would be a big help for the QB) Draft 2 WRs (pref. a slot guy and a deep threat) Draft a big bruiser RB (220+ lbs with good hands). Have a scheme that incorporates a blocking scheme that more closely resembles what we had when wilks was here (and the OL looked pretty good) more than that poo show we had last year. Be run heavy to take pressure off the passing game and BY and give him and the coaching staff a chance to show what he can do. all rookies have to have a solid run game and he never had one. i know no one wants to play this game so please excuse me while i play it....i'm going to look at this year as his rookie year. last year was so fugged up in every regard. really a horrible situation for a rookie QB to fall into. yes, a lot of it was his fault, but he should have had grown ups coaching instead he had a bunch of kids running around with pool noodles chasing each other around trying to smack each other on the head. he/we deserve a reset to see if it was a mistake to choose him as the franchise guy. new HC/staff and a "new" QB. that's all my opinion. please dismiss it as nothing more than a fart in the wind.

Cliff notes. Situation is bleak. Bryce looked bad. Only hope there is for us is that other QBs have looked horrible their rookie year and turned it around. Doesn't mean it will, just that it could happen. Add Ridley And Dalton Schultz in FA. Draft Adonai Mitchell if he's there. Let Mungo be your number 4 on the depth chart deep threat. OL wasn't as bad as it was last year. Bad scheme for them and Reich may just be bad for OLs. Look for OG help in FA and maybe uprade OC and we're heading in the right direction. That was about it.

yeah, canales should have fixed it all by now.

breaking

pssshhh... it's not a matter of wanting JJ or not. it's not wanting to pay $35mil a year. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/justin-jefferson-contract-vikings-tyreek-hill-davante-adams/0406c33a6811b712a11ec3f8

it could be one of those moments in life where you go along for a ride that you think is a good idea at the time, but then you wreck and think, "maybe that wasn't such a good idea. maybe i should do something different next time." the best growth comes from learning from bad decisions.

to a degree i think it will be modern, but it will be relying on the run setting up the pass. one of these interviews he did he talked about his commitment to the run and how if you want to have a team that goes deep into the playoffs you have to have a team that can run the ball well and that can even depend on it because every round you go in the playoffs, the pass D gets quite a bit tougher. you've got to be able to compensate for that. i think that fits also with what i think we all know, most of the season your passing game is going to carry you. as the season wears on, though, you've got to be relying more on the run or at least you've got to be able to depend on it. running games get harder to stop as the season wears on and defenses get tired.

i can't imagine seeing what tepper did last year and thinking, "hey! that seems like a good idea...maybe i should do that! let's play GM!!"

i'm thinking/hoping/praying that 2 things happen. 1) after evaluating the roster they get rid of the bums and then replace as many as they can with the type player "dawg" they are looking for and then fill out the rest of the roster with FAs that fit that mold we should have a core, of sorts, to work with and build around and from that they should be able to 2) build a scheme based on who we have on the roster. one that takes advantage of whatever strengths they can find and takes into consideration their limitations. part of me just wants to scrap the whole roster and start over, but that's just the emotional part of me. i understand that most of this team we saw last year will be most of who we have next year. hopefully with a few subtractions and a few additions we'll have something to build on that isn't miserable to watch. i think that's what my ceiling is set at...just don't make it miserable to watch.

post-lockout jerry i think was the bigger problem. for years you never really heard from him. then the lock out came and the guy went full on narcissist.

i don't know about hurney there...at least not in the draft. once he made that double dip in the first trade for otah in '08 he got himself in a gambling hole inspired by his old mentor bobby beathard that traded up for ryan leaf. we kept trading away firsts after that. that said, he's still probably the best one that we've had. bar not quite high there.

100%. I know it's just words, but the messages have been different from what we've gotten from previous regimes. Canales' philosophies are not in alignment with what we have seen here since ???? even with reich and brown creating their bastardized version haphazardly created scheme didn't really take into account who we had. they just tried to create something that neither of them had done and hoped that everyone would fit into it. we really haven't had anyone since probably henning scheme anything based on who we had here. chud didn't even pay attention to who was on the field when he was calling out plays.

talk and hope that this time they aren't talking out their arses.

either he didn't like them or he realized that wasn't exactly the right way to do it (because it got his old boss fired) and now he goes with what he knows....who a real football player is and not looking at what they could be if given the right situation or whatever.

i think canales has an advantage over coaches like rivera and reich in that since he was never a pro player, he's not sympathetic to the plights of older vets. and since he doesn't know these guys he won't have any kind of emotional dilemma in cutting players. this will probably be the easiest year to do that, but i hope he actually does it and that he's consistent with that approach in future years. rivera, though, was really frustrating because he didn't want to move on from vets because he knew what it was like to be one and get moved on from so he avoided it.

one (of many things) that i'm hoping is that Morgan wasn't happy with personnel decisions that he ended up having to comply with and would rather move on from some that were here before. it's his chance to get the roster right and i really hope he cares about making the panthers better and is willing to work with canales and make cuts wherever needed.

Good stuff on his philosophy in evaluating roster. Yeah...he's saying all the right stuff, but it's the mindset we need to get this team right. if they are serious about having them "dawgs" on the roster and there are a few who have been hanging around who were dogging it or just serial underperformers, hopefully they feel ok with moving on. Canales comes across like a players coach, which is fine...unless he coddles them, especially older vets like rivera did. we still have yet to see what he and morgan actually do, but i'm giving the the benefit of the doubt.

I think this might be alright. 13 players I'm not even sure how I pulled this off. I was literally half asleep doing it.

The perspective on Burns was interesting. We need someone on the other side if we keep him and if we don't then we have to find two pass rushers. Also pointed out that this defense is basically going back to what Capers ran here in the 90s and we have to have that two pronged pass rush. So now I'm like...

I gotcha.