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i'll just say this...i hope we win out.

this is one of the most the stupifying thing about it. do you just tell the players to not try? half ass it? put in the worst players? no game plan? intentionally throw games? @Champagnepapi704 @CamWhoaaCam

up the irons!

Yep. Definitely the longest drought, but we've been at the bottom before...a couple times. Our culture has sucked before, but what canales walked into was the worst I'd ever seen it. Things will get better and what I'm seeing is getting us in the right direction.

I think fans that are the most impatient are those who haven't been fans for long. I've been doing this thing since I was in my 20s...when we got a team. I've been at it a long time. What have I learned? Patience. We are starting over and rebuilding. Our culture has sucked for a long time thanks to the last couple years of Rivera, all the years of rhule( who really destroyed it all) and that clusterfug of a year last year. This year is about getting the culture right, getting the minds right, getting the right work ethic and team developing chemistry and building bonds and learning how to fight together. And winning any game builds confidence. For a new team (which we are due to us essentially starting over from scratch this year) there is no such thing as a meaningless win.

Winning habits come from putting in te work while you arent doing so well. You learn to walk by trying and falling. You learn to succeed by trying and failing. You learn to win by trying and losing. Eventually the work pays off People don't automatically become successful. They become successful not by succeeding, but by putting in the work and learning which then eventually leads to success when all the other things you need click into place. All of this takes being able to put in the necessary work whether things are going well or not, developing character for the individual and culture for the organization. It's work, ability, and attitude that helps you become succesful. You develop an attitude that tells you to work hard and keep trying while you develop the attitude and as a team you do that together while you work to get everyone on that same page. That's building a culture that will win, a winning culture. You don't become a winning team by plugging in one player. You become a winning team by getting all the players you have on the team in the same page with the right hard working attitude while they learn to play together. You know what you don't do? Quit. Ever.

Lol now i know why some want the Panthers to tank and are mad they won a couple.

Canales and Morgan probably know they want to go another direction, but Tepper has to be shown without a doubt that we need to cut our losses with bryce. Considering the cost involved, he'd want to make absolutely sure that there is nothing that can be done to make him worth the initial investment and that he is irredeemable to the point that we need to spend draft capital again to get another QB.

It would be worth it to keep using the rest of the season to see what happens to the offense with Dalton and Bryce. Experiment and see if it opens more up with Dalton or not. I don't think it's a question of whether Dalton has a role in the offense next year as much as a definitive answer on whether Bryce holds it all back. I think we all know he does, but Tepper will need quantifiable evidence to show that we would be better off going another direction.

Keep pounding Vs. Just quit

You are building a culture one way or the other. If you keep fighting regardless of anything, you build a tough team that won't quit. If you start trying to talk, you create a culture that quits Sorry. Try to defend it all you want, but what you are holding on to is the absolute worst kind of culture for any team. And the whole concept is just stupid. Sorry. Only the worst of team cultures quit and call it strategy.

Seriously this whole tank strategy is the worst idea that could ever be dreamed of in competitive sports. It's a strategy for cowards and weak minded individuals.

If your strategy is to lose, no one wants to play for you. I would always rather have a team that fights than who is told to lay down. A team that fights is one to still be proud of. A team that chooses to win is a true embarrassment greater than any other. Fight on.

Apparently noticing that Bryce is getting a little bit better and hoping that he can turn into a decent QB is being a fanboy and you're saying that he's headed for canton. People love to overreact about imagined overreactions.

Being able to draft a QB in the top 5 doesn't mean you're getting a franchise QB. It means you're going to be paying a high price for an unproven kid to walk into a crappy situation where he's expected to play at a pro bowl level right out of the gate but will probably be benches withing 3 years while that team stays in the top 5 draft spots annually. Not sure if people notice this, drafting your franchise QB in the top spots is a gamble that doesnt guarantee Jack and is more often than not going to fail. Get the team right first so you don't waste your pick.

One interview canales did leading up to the Germany game, he talked about how excited the players were about playing on grass there

Just getting caught up finally on the game this morning And one thing jumps out at me....I love those jerseys getting dirty and grass stained. I love watching guys get up with a clump of grass stuck in their helmets. Give us back our grass, Tepper. Give us grass. Do that and you do your part in restoring the Panthers to what they were.

Lol we still in it. Yes...the division is that bad

Thoughts and prayers

In April. Hey...it's Jerry. His brain don't work like other people

Lol cooper makes Bryce look....ok.

Yeah, they are a bit of enigma this year. Inexplicable.

Lol Dallas can't smell poo. They're stuck in their own.

I hope he succeeds if nothing else just to fug with people's minds.

And they weren't looking that good to begin with.