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lol if i could i would have.

first, i loved watching those clips without hearing those commentators. just the sound of the action and the crowd. second, i'm just excited watching all of those guys. Wallace and Barrett were really fun to watch. but for those angles, there were plays that i had watched several times of XL, Brooks, and Sanders that showed a completely different vantage point that made them look even more impressive. i think we've got some good ones in this draft.

Don't know about this ex-scout guy, but Jets GMs haven't been really any better than ours for a couple decades. That said, i'm curious where XL would have been ranked if he had at last 2-3 years of production like he had his final year. I'm convinced that he had been capable of that kind of production for more than the past couple years, but situations and lack of opportunity prevented that from happening. So if he had 2 or 3 years of similar production...say he peaked last year but IF he had averaged the two years before 100+ receptions, 1300 yards, and 9-10 TDs. Would that have put him in the same conversation as Harrison, Nabors, and Odunze? just curious....

More that it could work.

trying hard not to get sam mill vibes from this guy.

i'm becoming less and less worried about their ability to do the job. like others, i'm just worried about durability,

thanks for the input here. we're all pretty clueless and working on assumptions and observations from the Thomas Davis days.

DWill was someone that everyone was concerned with because of his college work load as well. guy came into the league with over 1k touches (969 carries + 70 rec) and about 6750 combined yards.

but at least double trouble and CMC were hella fun to watch. sanders? oof.

nah, they'll be ok. Wallace will be a stud. we'll pick up GiImore then the CB room will be set for the year. then next year we can go back and draft a CB then.

agreed. Bryce got some big time playmakers. we needed that. and considering we went in without a first rounder, we did well.

i know that Corbett can block and it makes sense him talking about being a guard on both sides he knows what guards need from their center. it's been a while, but he's done it before so it shouldn't be hard to get back into the motions and it won't take long for it to be second nature to him. calling protections might be an issue, but he's played the game long enough that it shouldn't be a problem. getting that chemistry with BY and gelling with the guys on either side of him will be the biggest thing to accomplish but i think they can get that through the offseason. the thing that is the most worrisome to me is the threat of injury to a guy who really struggled with them last year. it sucks that the best FA option out there at the moment is a guy who is coming off a big injury himself (Connor Williams - ACL in December).

i don't see it as an overt neglect of the OL. They had several priorities they felt they had a bigger need to address and available options to take care of them. i would have liked to see us draft an OC, but not sure i'd want that rookie starting, esp. day 1. of course it depends on who it was. agree with it or not, their biggest priority has been on getting BY playmakers, and they got those. those that have pointed out that FA period isn't over and cuts are likely coming are correct, the roster as is right now won't be what we see day 1. lots of time to pick one up...if they plan to. one thing to consider, they may actually like the idea of Corbett playing there. and, as hard as it might be to consider, that might actually be the right call. and having BC as the backup might just be enough. i don't know. i'm just going to sit back and watch it all unfold and be excited that we have those big OGs on either side of whoever we have starting at OC and we'll be a lot better for it. another thing to consider, BY might just be comfortable with Corbett already there. it's important that the QB feel confident in and have a bit of a connection with the OC. either way, despite my being all in on Corbett as center, wishing that we had drafted someone, and hoping that we get someone in FA...i'm not upset or bothered by it. the team is in a lot better shape overall than last year going into the season and i feel good about the moves they have made so far. looking forward to what they do the rest of this offseason and what they do going into next year.

Matty ice won't make it better

I've seen two complaints show up. 1) boom or bust in several picks... namely XL (only 1 year good production), Brooks (ACL), and Wallace (raw). 2) no first round pick...and yes, I've seen that as a complaint on a couple of grades

i know, but to a degree to can still apply, imo. yes, the guy is a unicorn. crazy circumstances and situations i think kept him away from opportunity to prove themselves for a longer period of time. and in that he and cam are similar. cam took a couple years before he was put in a situation to show what he could do given then opportunity. same wit XL. different circumstances, for sure, but really they were drafted based on one one year of production where they looked dominant. does that mean he's going to be the cam newton of WRS? probably not. one of the arguments against cam was that he had only one year of "real" production at a high level and those arguments were furthered by the lack of people who had transitioned into a legit starter after so little starting experience. they were/are both unicorns.

easy to be shaped into who we want them to be as players. i think even though XL is older, he's still just as moldable as the guys drafted after him because he hasn't really had that much time put in at the position.

if he's playing on the outside, that's an issue. straight line speed doesn't mean much when you play nickel, which he probably will. for that you just have to be quick and looks to be able to hang with anyone in the slot.

i remember a certain QB who only had one year of NCAA starting experience getting drafted early and he did alright.

you're about to see one.

unless he totally lights it up in the offseason, he'll end up being 3rd. Chuba has already shown his value. Brooks is about to.

Oof.

He can and does do both. It's not often, but he did it in almost every game I saw.

And he's not some random camp body hero everyone just pulls for because we want a success story. The guy was pretty highly regarded and the only knock against him was a small school guy. He legit should have been drafted. Any other year he probably would have been. He's got real talent and I hope we find a way to keep him around because he could be a long haul player.