rayzor

would you call Carroll's run first strategy foxball? seems like they had a lot more consistent success with it. Considering that it was Carroll's offense and Canales is a Carroll pupil, wouldn't it be considered Carollball? we aren't a team run by fox, rivera, or wilks. different coaches. different personnel.

deep ball or not, run game opens up passing game. works better with deep ball, but still can work.

yes, the run game opens up the passing game.

One of the things that we have heard is that Canales is going to be putting a heavy emphasis on the run and that has made more than a few frustrated because "it's a passing league" and "you don't draft a QB 1st overall to have a run heavy offense". This isn't to argue either of those points, just pointing out something interesting i saw. I heard a comment yesterday someone made talking about how Canales' offense is going to look like what was seen in Seattle and what did Seattle do? Ran...a lot. This isn't something that i really noticed much at the time and, frankly, i'm kind of surprised by this. I mean they had Russ who was at the time a very good and very dangerous QB, and they still ran a lot (too much by Russ' opinion, which is why he wanted out). Yeah, Russ wasn't drafted first overall, or even in the first round. But looking at what he was able to do probably should have been. I checked to see just how much they ran and, well...here it is. I looked at their rush vs pass attempts and where they were ranked within the league for each. For most of that time span i'd say they were pretty successful. after Russ got there they didn't have a losing season until 2021 and even then, that's been our ceiling for a while. During that whole time of their successes they were always in the bottom half in the league as far as passing attempts go. As a rushing team, i think their best seasons were when they were a rushing top heavy team. is this a strategy that most of us would choose? probably not, but it can work. it doesn't matter the reasoning for being rush heavy as long as they can make it work and i think with this OL and RB room i think we can. Will it be the most exciting style of play? i don't know. but if it can keep us in games and help us win, i'm all for it.

fantastic discussion up there with Eager. The guy is no doubt a stat nerd of the highest order, but he also understands the "it's just football" side of it. stats and analytics can help in making decisions, but he knows that there are moments of momentum that the coach just has to go with his gut and try to create or maintain momentum. i like that the guy isn't a BY bandwagoner. he wasn't hired because of that. i think that having him help prepare for games will help, but i think also having him as a resource for a new HC can really help in managing the game. Canales will have his football guys on the field and in his ear, but he will also have this other guy (assuming he's in the booth during games) feeding him some info that can help making crucial decisions throughout the game. not completely sure what his role will be, but i think the guy could be a huge asset for us, especially having a rookie HC.

i hope we don't need one.

He was probably too caught up in the idea of getting the gig that he couldn't say no and felt he could probably deal with it. Panthers had a plan and needed a HC with pro experience. He needed a job so he could be validated and was willing to step into a situation he didn't know would be too much for him. Clusterfug is the perfect description of it all, though. It was a disaster that no one could have seen coming much like Siefert. There is no reason to believe it would have gone so epically wrong. Some might have predicted failure for certain reasons, but no one could have seen this failing so badly. Anyone who says they call it only see failure in everything anyways. Much in the way some people always predict doom in every situation... eventually they will be right, but it's not because of anything in they actually knew. Reich wasn't what we thought he was. Bryce wasn't what we thought he was. That coaching staff wasn't what we thought it was. Nothing was as good as we hoped. I think we are far better set up for success this time, but that doesn't matter because thought we were set up for it last time. Will it work? Some may think they know. We'll just have to watch and hope it does.

Option 3....Reich didn't have a clue what to do, especially with a rookie QB. It wasn't that he wanted to draft a different QB. It's that he wanted a vet. I think he was in over his head even in Indy and barely managed to hang in because of the established QBs he had to work with. He knew what to do with vet QBs looking for a second chance because that's who he was as a pro. And the (limited) success he had as a player himself transferred on to his players. He didn't really have to reinvent much in Indy like he was going to have to do here. He was a likeable guy, but he wasn't enough as a leader as was needed for the cast of coaches and personalities he had here. To pull that off you'd need to be the biggest and strongest personality in the room and he never was. It was just a bad fit for a weak leader and head coach. I just don't think anyone except that for that cokehead in Indy knew just how weak Reich was.

Nice goal. I like it. I have another one for him.....be better than Olsen.

BY didn't get Reich fired. Reich got himself fired by being way in over his head and being the head coach of a coaching staff who did nothing to help him out. Of course they were all sold on the idea that BY was pro ready out of the gate by Fitt so they felt he didn't need to be developed (like every rookie should be). They had no clear vision. And no solid plan in place, nothing worked, and the coaching staff was too busy playing hunger games to be coaching so they panicked and did the same thing over and over. It was a complete clusterfug that we had a rookie QB who needed help thrown into the middle of.

yeah i watched a good bit of him. hard not to put out of my mind that he was having his way with a bunch of small school guys. guy could still be good.

he's supposedly running, but it's probably just straight line stuff...no cuts or anything. probably not much reason he couldn't do walk throughs, though.

i hate that. such a rough life he's had. so much promise coming into the league. was hoping that something would click for him.

How do you know they do and he doesn't? Anyways, it's all personal opinions and none of it has to be justified to anyone. And is there homerism at play? Maybe. And that's ok. But there's also the possible bias that because he was a panther pick and panthers suck at picking he must suck. And that's also ok. Does all of it (or any of it) jive with the way you see it? Maybe....maybe not. Does it have to? Nope

Say two guys buy a pair of 48" waist pants. One of them is already 45" waist. The other has a 32" waist. The guy with the 32" waist has more room to grow to fit into the really big pants.

Thank you cba

i can say with 100% certainty that he hasn't failed this year.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10118808-cowboys-trolled-by-nfl-fans-after-panthers-trade-up-to-draft-rb-jonathan-brooks lots of goodness in that one.

before the draft i had heard that the cowboys were really wanting him as their new bell cow RB. they'd been following his recovery progress and hadn't seen anything to dissuade them from drafting him. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/texas-jonathon-brooks-becomes-first-rb-chosen-after-cowboys-jerry-jones-called-him-outstanding/

whoa...one of the great producers. thanks for helping good albums great.

nope...sorry. THAT GUY said it didn't happen.

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First, I think I'd be ok with 5 wins as long as we are more fun to watch and we see improvement. At my most optimistic I see us at 8 wins. And B....you could very well be right about Bryce. You probably are. I'm just willing to give him a other chance with a better situation and I see reason to feel some hope. Hope involves risk emotionally. I haven't had much reason for anything close to sustainable hope for a long time as a panther fan so I grasp at it when I have a chance just in case it works out. If it doesn't, at least I allowed myself a chance to feel good about the team for a little bit and to me it's worth the risk.

The guys who are the top 3 in the draft compared to XL have less room for growth. Especially Harrison. He's been groomed his whole life for this by a legend. He's naturally gifted and well trained for being the top. He'll get better, but he won't get much better than where he is right now, imo...not compared to XL. I'm not saying that XL will be better than Harrison, just that Harrison's floor is a lot bigger than XLs because of the investment made in him from essentially birth. He had advantages that XL just didn't have. XL is just now getting into a position where he can receive solid coaching and opportunity he's never had before. He's naturally gifted an old supposedly very coachable and takes to coaching well. There's no telling how good he can be.