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i'm not trying to make anyone look dumb. they seem sure. i'm sure they are seeing something that i'm missing out on. let this be the definitive tanking thread where the whole thing is explained. how to successfully pull off a tank. give me the deets, folks. (that means details)

I understand all that, but thats not the issue. The issue is people are getting mad that this team isn't lying down. My question is how do you get your team to lie down. What do you do to get your team to quit trying do you don't win "pointless" games?

I understand the 'why' you think it's a good idea. I'm asking how you do it. What do you do? What do you tell the players and the coaches? How do you intentionally 'tank'?

lol...my problem is that i don't see you talking about how you tank games. i thought it's a rather simple question. probably too simple for you being the intellectual giant you appear to be, i don't know. but how do you tank? what is the strategy involved? explain this to me. i'm listening.

we're just waiting for you to explain what it means to tank...how you get a team to tank. what is the strategy involved. pretend i'm a 3rd grader if you have to. i might have a problem keeping up with your intellect.

i'm just being entertained. i love these answers.

so was it intentional?

so Daniel Jones is leading the team to deliberately and intentionally perform poorly? they are making a collective conscientious decision to drop balls and fug up. they made the conscientious decision decision to lose?

this is great stuff i'm seeing in here. keep bringing it.

so the RB deliberately fumbled the ball?

what i don't understand is how you tank. is it an intentional effort to lose? you tell people to fug up?

you think this was intentional?

i see it...you take three steps backward so you can take a gamble on a QB and a few other early picks in the other rounds.

@Champagnepapi704 you think daniel jones intentionally tanked that game? that they said "hey...no TDs today. only throw INTS."?

thanks for not answering how you accomplish this. was that a 'yes' to telling everyone to half ass it and intentionally throw games?

i'll just say this...i hope we win out.

this is one of the most the stupifying thing about it. do you just tell the players to not try? half ass it? put in the worst players? no game plan? intentionally throw games? @Champagnepapi704 @CamWhoaaCam

up the irons!

Yep. Definitely the longest drought, but we've been at the bottom before...a couple times. Our culture has sucked before, but what canales walked into was the worst I'd ever seen it. Things will get better and what I'm seeing is getting us in the right direction.

I think fans that are the most impatient are those who haven't been fans for long. I've been doing this thing since I was in my 20s...when we got a team. I've been at it a long time. What have I learned? Patience. We are starting over and rebuilding. Our culture has sucked for a long time thanks to the last couple years of Rivera, all the years of rhule( who really destroyed it all) and that clusterfug of a year last year. This year is about getting the culture right, getting the minds right, getting the right work ethic and team developing chemistry and building bonds and learning how to fight together. And winning any game builds confidence. For a new team (which we are due to us essentially starting over from scratch this year) there is no such thing as a meaningless win.

Winning habits come from putting in te work while you arent doing so well. You learn to walk by trying and falling. You learn to succeed by trying and failing. You learn to win by trying and losing. Eventually the work pays off People don't automatically become successful. They become successful not by succeeding, but by putting in the work and learning which then eventually leads to success when all the other things you need click into place. All of this takes being able to put in the necessary work whether things are going well or not, developing character for the individual and culture for the organization. It's work, ability, and attitude that helps you become succesful. You develop an attitude that tells you to work hard and keep trying while you develop the attitude and as a team you do that together while you work to get everyone on that same page. That's building a culture that will win, a winning culture. You don't become a winning team by plugging in one player. You become a winning team by getting all the players you have on the team in the same page with the right hard working attitude while they learn to play together. You know what you don't do? Quit. Ever.

Lol now i know why some want the Panthers to tank and are mad they won a couple.

Canales and Morgan probably know they want to go another direction, but Tepper has to be shown without a doubt that we need to cut our losses with bryce. Considering the cost involved, he'd want to make absolutely sure that there is nothing that can be done to make him worth the initial investment and that he is irredeemable to the point that we need to spend draft capital again to get another QB.

It would be worth it to keep using the rest of the season to see what happens to the offense with Dalton and Bryce. Experiment and see if it opens more up with Dalton or not. I don't think it's a question of whether Dalton has a role in the offense next year as much as a definitive answer on whether Bryce holds it all back. I think we all know he does, but Tepper will need quantifiable evidence to show that we would be better off going another direction.