rayzor

I didn't have a history with the Panthers before 1995 and the only reason I became a fan was because they were the local team if they aren't local anymore and another team comes in, I'm probably jumping to the new team, especially if tepper is still running the Panthers and he's stull doing the same poo With the amount of turnover that takes place each team is really just a name, isn't it? The culture is with the group that stays with it the longest, the fans you take the team away, you take the team away from the culture and you take the team away from the fans and tou take it away from it's legacy and history. And I don't care about the MLB.

What turnovers?

That's the only reason he's got a job...and he kind of is. He preaches the gospel of rhule making people believe he's a great coach.

Whatever gives you that idea?

he said all the right things. now he just says a lot of things.

i remember being excited.

for me the clausen season was miserable to start, but i had a lot of hope because you just knew that 1) fox was going to be gone the next year (contract had run out and he wasn't getting another one) and 2) we were going to be getting a shot at an incredible QB. even that last year with rivera....you just had a sense that rivera wasn't going to be around much longer. new owner had laid down pretty well known expectations and it was only a matter of time before he got his guy in here. this year.... i don't know. i've got this nagging thought in the back of my mind that 1) tepper is going to stick with rhule and 2) this is as good as it's going to get at QB. basically it's this nagging feeling that we are stuck and tepper is hoping that somehow rhule is going to pull it together. tepper was very vocal before, but with the failures of rhule, he's gone into a shell. i can't say i blame him, but why not just admit that rhule may not have been the best hire and move on and learn from the mistakes he made with rhule...don't go after the trendy name and don't give an unknown commodity a 7 year mega$ deal, no matter what they try to sell you on.

it would be so sad to see him go.

at least if people are booing and complaining, they still care. it's when things are silent that things are bad. and to expect everyone to just be happy and excited and cheering when things are bad is just insane. being a fan doesn't mean delusionally and deliriously happy... i mean it can, but it doesn't have to mean that. being a fan means that you can get pissed when things are bad. what we are looking at now, though, is that there are a lot of us that are crossing that line from being pissed to being apathetic, which isn't good....but when you're status quo is 5 wins a season and you don't look like you can even reach that level and there's no indication from official channels that things are going to change that, apathy is to be expected.

i really liked the idea of an innovative guy who was into analytics and had turned a couple programs around. still a good idea. we just don't have that guy. i thought that coming from college where things are more progressive would have been an asset, and with the right guy it might be. the problem...one of quite a few...is that coaching kids in college is a different beast than coaching grownups. totally different mentality. someone good at one very well won't be good at the other. people generally coach at the level they are best suited. one thing is for sure, you can't do the same things at one you do at the other. it's not "all just football". and no...mccarthy wouldn't have been much better. we'd still suck, it would just be a different kind of suck.

we've lost to worse QBs than an injured winston and healthy dalton.

consistent with rhule's entire career. he's never done well against good teams.

marty hurney did the same thing. he was always more interested in the story than the skill (that's what you get when you hire a sportswriter to be your GM). hurney may have influenced tepper a bit too much.

Except genuine incompetence.

We drafted him because of his skills in man coverage, right? And we've got him playing zone. Why should I expect anything else?

Translation:

he should be...but there's rhule in the picture.

i don't want us to get beat...ever. i never have. not even when we were in the cam newton sweepstakes. i had every confidence that we were bad enough to get the losses needed to get that first pick. i highly doubt we will win, though. i just have no confidence that we will. i mean it's possible, but any wins we get will be rare and infrequent this year. i don't want us to tank purposefully. i just think it happens. the difference is that when we were in the running for first pick to get cam, i was certain we'd have enough losses to get it. the problem is with this...just how many losses is enough for tepper to pull the plug? i just don't trust him to do it any time soon.

and our unit spent the whole of training camp in some sham competition when they should have been gelling with each other and baker (who shouldn't have been part of some sham QB competition either).

i think i started in '04 as well. i can't really remember anymore. huddle was a very different place back then lol.

just an fyi...huddle is a few years older than that. that date in 2008 was after the great meltdown after we got stomped in ATL a few days before. board melted down literally. @Jai. was around for the original board, though.

where did you see it?

you're just mad because you didn't think of this one first.