rayzor

the bigger problem is he had sucky coaches. they didn't do anything.

you know some don't care what they get as long as they hit, catch, throw, run, whatever.

until he proves he can't, i'm going to assume that he will just as much as any other player. because no one has been able to show a correlation between smaller players and injury frequency or magnitude.

i think you are probably right on the source of the info, but i'm not totally seeing what you are on Bryce. i think he'll be really stinking good.

where are they hearing this? i think at this point it's all assumptions and opinions for any of them.

i think that Young and Stroud are both good to go as a starter on day 1, or at least it seems they would be. AR...i think it depends on how he was used. Might be best to have him in situationally and eventually in the first season. he gets compared to Cam a lot, but Cam was ready to go day 1 for sure. that's just not AR. not yet. i think the intelligence is there for sure. it's just the playing experience he's lacking.

you know our only HoF player was "too short to play LB." and probably the best non-QB player we ever had was supposedly too short to play WR at a high level.

It doesn't sound like they are interested in drafting someone they can't start right away. They are priming this team to win now. If they draft him, the goal will be to start him day 1. Dalton is there in case he's not ready, but I think they won't be wanting to let him sit a year. They'd come up with an offense built around what he can and can't do right now and develop him as they go, adding things to the offense as he progresses.

i want to believe.

i think he'll be moderately hyped just because it's the 49ers. he won't be a pro-bowler, though. he'll still be a pretty clunky QB and he's going to find himself eventually backup to Purdy.

i think they are definitely leaning one way, as in i think that Reich and the coaching staff are pretty much leaning a certain way and Fitt and the scout staff are also leaning a certain way, and the Teppers are also leaning a certain way, but they may not be sharing their thoughts with the others. i do feel like after the combine, though, they all had an idea that they wanted someone and the consensus was that whoever it was, the best way to make sure they got their guy was by making this big trade. it wasn't the only way, but it was the only sure way to get him...whoever it is. i really don't think any will be surprised when they get together and discuss it the week before the draft (if that's really what's going on) about who the other groups are backing. i really feel like they saw something together at the combine, though, that said "this is the guy we want to build the franchise around".

i think a lot of people in here, obviously, think they know who we're getting, but they don't really know. because i think the team doesn't 100% know yet. it's all speculation. of course that won't stop them from coming in here and crowing if they just happen to be right and i guarantee that they will hang on to it for years..."you should listen to me because i was "right" that one time." except getting it right means guessing correctly. it always does in the NFL.

it's the right decision if so. i won't call him that. i have a couple times in the past i think, but i felt uncomfortable doing it.

where is the line between too small and just big enough?

gotcha. still thin threads backing the argument, but then i think it's kind of an overall thin argument against. i just don't know that it's worth the attention that has been given it. i asked before and i don't think anyone answered it...where is the line where it's no longer dangerous? where is the line for too small vs. just big enough and what makes it a line worth drawing?

so is young going to have to go to canada for a big chuck of his career to pad stats/be safe?

I remember players rarely used #1 before Cam. Warren Moon of course did a few decades before Cam and a couple other QBs wore it for a year or two, but that was just something you didn't do. Cam made it ok. I'm sure there will be some flavor for wearing 0, but people will get over it and used to it.

but is it enough of a weight to decide to not draft him at 1? compare that with all the other things being brought to the table and i just don't think it's enough to say "nah...i'll pass." if you have him and CJ completely level in all regards except for size, i guess you'd go for the bigger one, i don't know. i just don't see it as the major concern everyone else does. it's an issue, but not enough to just say no to the guy.

i don't know...i think you're reading too much into this idea that there hasn't been anyone this small to play the position in the pros. there's always going to be someone who is the biggest, the smallest, the oldest, the youngest, the darkest, etc. there's always going to be someone who does what hasn't been done before and when you give someone a chance the next reaction will be, "why haven't we done this before?"

i have days where i'm going stroud and others where i'm going young, but it's never a "please don't draft that guy" for either one.

but and respectfully, it's not an educated conclusion that since he's smaller than any other QB that he will get hurt or that since he is smaller than any other QB he is more likely to get hurt. The fact that he's would be the smallest would be a fact that stands on its own. it doesn't need any other context than he's small. i mean what's the cutoff for what is a safe size? and don't take any of this to mean i'm picking Young over CJ. I'm high on both of them.

exactly. you can't know. there's no guarantee of health or injury for any player.

or you can choose to see that big question is no bigger for any other player. you can't accurately predict injury for anyone. so why bother?

Can't live in fear. Got to swing for the fences and take a chance. We've seen players of all sizes have injuries happen that shorten their career and you can't predict really any of them. What if he takes a crazy hit and his career ends in 2 years? But what if he doesn't take any serious injuries and he plays at Mahommes level or better for a 10-15 years? If he's capable of doing great things...you've got to focus on that.

what if you can have both in one?