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If he's released, he still gets $10 mil. Do a contract that lowers his cap and he get bonus of like $12 mil to do it with backloaded fake years. Something that if traded, the new team has a cap hit of like 2 or 3 mil. Then everybody wins and maybe we get a decent draft pick in return (3rd or 4th)? But realistically it's probably a 5th or 6th.

Teddy gets $10 mil if we cut him.... so do a 2 year $12 mil with $6 mil this year (for trading and cap purposes). All guaranteed and next years $6 mil paid by the Panthers (as a bonus this year). Then I can see someone trading a 3rd to 4th round pick to get him. Teddy makes an extra $2 mil plus what he can get next year. Best scenario.

If you figure 1/2 the moves so far will work out, then we are in better shape. Some won't, so why complain about each one or praise each one. They're all "taking a chance". Then if 1/2 the draft works out, then we are better again. We couldn't swing for the fences on a QB and afford to strike out, I get it. Take the base hit and get on base. Build a solid team is something they can control and are doing a very good job of it. In looking what the Panthers have done, very smartly is give themselves quality depth. Injuries will happen and that's when even the best teams can be exposed (see Chiefs in the SB with no real tackles). Even Mahomes couldn't save them. Maybe Darnold works out and maybe he doesn't, but we had limited choices. If Alex Smith played against us last year, Washington wins and we're thinking differently but it didn't happen and losing on purpose is never good (see Eagles). You play the cards you're dealt with. I'm optimistic and think "the future looks bright I gotta wear shades" - Music references as I'm a DJ

If we get a 6th I would be happy as we unload Teddy's contract... and could still draft a QB if they fall and give them time.

It could be that LT Sewel falls to us. Then I would trade a 2nd along with Teddy (they take his contract) for Darnold or just a 3rd.

I would trade Teddy for Darnold along with a 2022 1st, 2nd or 3rd round next year, meaning it's based on how Darnold performs. If Darnold comes in and puts up great numbers, I would give a 1st. If he does just good, a 2nd and if he's OK, a 3rd. The reason is the Jets have to take Teddy and his contract. That's worth something. A trade for Darnold alone, then maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick, this or next year.

I'd take Slater at 8 and have a damn good O-line. CB in the 2nd or 3rd and this team will be a lot better all around, except QB but we'll get there one day. Who knows, maybe they hold tight and trade for Watson later on for only 2 1st round picks later in the summer or something (if that mess clears up).

from PFT: It isn’t often that a tight end is a Top 5 pick in the NFL draft, but it also isn’t often that a tight end is as good as Kyle Pitts. Pitts, who won the John Mackey Award as the best tight end in college football last season at Florida, turned in a sensational workout today. Afterward, he said the Falcons have shown interest in picking him with the fourth overall pick in the draft. “I did talk to them on Zoom a couple times,” Pitts said. “I talked to them again today. They said they have interest in me. After today we’ll get together on another Zoom and they’ll try to learn more about me. I feel like they’re pretty interested. It would be a dream come true to be Top 5 or be the first non-quarterback to come off the board, so that’s something I look forward to in the draft.” The first three picks in the draft — owned by the Jaguars, Jets and 49ers — will certainly be quarterbacks. But Pitts may very well go fourth. That would be a bold move by the Falcons, but one they are surely considering. - If that's the case and Sewel goes to Cinn, then we have a great shot at OT Slater, or QB Fields, or maybe QB Lance (if SF takes Jones). If SF takes Lance, then we have to hope for Fields but Slater is not a bad pick if we have no choice.

we had guys open deep because the other team knew Teddy wouldn't go deep. If you have a gunslinger, they will take that away, like TB did again Mahomes in the SB.

Drafting Slater LT or a CB if he's gone.

Unless you have all superstars, any decent QB can beat you when they know what your scheme is on defense and who's covering who. But when you can disguise coverages buy having guys who can play multiple ways and positions, you tilt the scale towards the defense by keeping the offense (QB) guessing. And that extra second of hesitation is why you have a good pass rush.

I don't believe Mac Jones is worth an 8th pick but maybe later in the 1st or 2nd. But, with teams really wanting a young QB, anything is possible. Unless Rhule has some insight from working with him a couple of months ago at the Senior Bowl that he can tell he will be great with good coaching.

I would rather trade for Darnold if the Jets draft Wilson. They'd take a 2nd and maybe a 4th or 5th. Maybe they'll take Teddy as a mentor for Wilson. I don't want Tua.

Trevor, Field and Wilson are gone in the top 4 to 5 picks, either direct or by trade. I've said it before, I don't think Lance or Jones are worth a 8th pick or more I think the risk is too great for them. Trade down a few would be nice and get an extra 2nd or 3rd rd pick or take LT or CB. Both will cost us a lot in FA. If you trade down and Lance or Jones are still there, then maybe.

Can you imagine getting Watson (with a smeared name but not "guilty" of sexual assault) for like 1 high draft pick?

I see Sewell (I would love) or Slater or 1 of the top 2 CB's. 2 important and expensive positions. I based this on our FA signings so far and now that the Bengals signed Riley Reiff for OT..... 3 QBs, 1 WR, 1 DE (Giants), probably 1 OT (maybe Philly) and Parson at LB (Lions), and TE (Philly) is where I think it falls, natural order or trades. I don't think they'll take Lance at 8 (or Jones) looking at the GM's track record, Seattle hasn't taking a QB in the 1st round on a long long time.. I also don't think trade ahead unless #2 for Wilson but it's gonna cost a lot. I see them building a solid winning team with picks until they find the QB of the future, even if it takes a year or 2. Taking a chance on a QB (they are a risk) and giving away lots of picks could give us another 2 years of losing before it turns around and that might turn off the fan base more than they want.... I also wouldn't be shocked if they took TE Pitts if he falls as that would give us 4 top end stars catching the ball (Robbie, DJ, CMC and Pitts). He could be a game changer and I see OC Brady changing his style from what he learned, especially in the red zone. BTW giving away picks for Watson (before all this stuff went down) is different as he's a proven commodity. Drafting is a crap shoot.

All jokes aside, Watson could be traded for peanuts if this goes south. Can you imagine the Texans can only get like a 1st and a 3rd for him as this unfolds? They should have traded him weeks ago.

Didn't OC Turner not use Samuel that great when he was with Carolina? I mean, if his numbers go down, then we'll know it's how you use him. Wish him the best.

So far I'm accurate. 2 low cost vets on the O-line

It's better than giving Matt Kalil $55 mil and he bombed.

I didn't say I wanted that but I feel the way their talking they are keeping that option open.

Not the actually player, but that would be impressive, but direction...... I see their only splash being CB (not even being a that big of a contract). A solid DB opposite Ajax is needed. I would say who but as people get cut this could change. I could see a 30 year old for maybe a 2 year deal but he has a name and rep and still plays well. I see them signing low costs vets at Guard (2 as a lot are available) so they could draft OG high. TE, LB (Van Noy for the right price would be nice) and safety so they can draft what ever they want (but they do have Burris and Franklin). Then drafting QB at 8, LT in 2nd. OG in 3rd. CB in 4th..... If all 4 QBs are gone by 8, I really see them taking LT Slater at 8. OG in the 2nd or possible 3rd too. That would make the O-Line set for the next 5 to 6 years. DL is solid with Matos, Burns Obada, Kerr & Brown. Still got Haynes at DE. Need 2 more but not a priority. I don't see them trading up and losing picks. They want to build through the draft and we are not even a few players away. There is the possibility of running one more year with TB (just saying).

While I agree he's a late 1st rounded and I would take him easily with our 2nd pick, but he won't be there. But as you've stated him physical limitations is describing Tom Brady and look how he turned out, and that's what some people see (right or wrong). Jones just might have the smarts and pocket awareness and accuracy to succeed in the NFL. If we can't get Watson or Fields or Wilson. I would take Wilson or Lance but not at 8. I would take LT Slater at 8 and then try to move up with my 2nd round pick if their either are available to around 18 to 20 in the 1st.

i don't think that's on Hurney. I got it as he showed promise and you give him some money and he gets fat and lazy and he admits it. We can say that with all pros we've given nice contracts too. It's like every player who does great in his "contract year" and then tanks or levels off.

Lance is not a top pick and not worth the chance at 8 (IMO). He had 1 great year... 2 years ago, against lower talent. He's got talent but not early 1st round. Fiends or Wilson fall, awesome. Either move back or take another position.