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I don't believe Mac Jones is worth an 8th pick but maybe later in the 1st or 2nd. But, with teams really wanting a young QB, anything is possible. Unless Rhule has some insight from working with him a couple of months ago at the Senior Bowl that he can tell he will be great with good coaching.
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I would rather trade for Darnold if the Jets draft Wilson. They'd take a 2nd and maybe a 4th or 5th. Maybe they'll take Teddy as a mentor for Wilson. I don't want Tua.
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Trevor, Field and Wilson are gone in the top 4 to 5 picks, either direct or by trade. I've said it before, I don't think Lance or Jones are worth a 8th pick or more I think the risk is too great for them. Trade down a few would be nice and get an extra 2nd or 3rd rd pick or take LT or CB. Both will cost us a lot in FA. If you trade down and Lance or Jones are still there, then maybe.
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Can you imagine getting Watson (with a smeared name but not "guilty" of sexual assault) for like 1 high draft pick?
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I see Sewell (I would love) or Slater or 1 of the top 2 CB's. 2 important and expensive positions. I based this on our FA signings so far and now that the Bengals signed Riley Reiff for OT..... 3 QBs, 1 WR, 1 DE (Giants), probably 1 OT (maybe Philly) and Parson at LB (Lions), and TE (Philly) is where I think it falls, natural order or trades. I don't think they'll take Lance at 8 (or Jones) looking at the GM's track record, Seattle hasn't taking a QB in the 1st round on a long long time.. I also don't think trade ahead unless #2 for Wilson but it's gonna cost a lot. I see them building a solid winning team with picks until they find the QB of the future, even if it takes a year or 2. Taking a chance on a QB (they are a risk) and giving away lots of picks could give us another 2 years of losing before it turns around and that might turn off the fan base more than they want.... I also wouldn't be shocked if they took TE Pitts if he falls as that would give us 4 top end stars catching the ball (Robbie, DJ, CMC and Pitts). He could be a game changer and I see OC Brady changing his style from what he learned, especially in the red zone. BTW giving away picks for Watson (before all this stuff went down) is different as he's a proven commodity. Drafting is a crap shoot.
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All jokes aside, Watson could be traded for peanuts if this goes south. Can you imagine the Texans can only get like a 1st and a 3rd for him as this unfolds? They should have traded him weeks ago.
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Didn't OC Turner not use Samuel that great when he was with Carolina? I mean, if his numbers go down, then we'll know it's how you use him. Wish him the best.
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Predictions for FA... then draft. By position
musicman replied to musicman's topic in Carolina Panthers
So far I'm accurate. 2 low cost vets on the O-line -
Predictions for FA... then draft. By position
musicman replied to musicman's topic in Carolina Panthers
I didn't say I wanted that but I feel the way their talking they are keeping that option open. -
Not the actually player, but that would be impressive, but direction...... I see their only splash being CB (not even being a that big of a contract). A solid DB opposite Ajax is needed. I would say who but as people get cut this could change. I could see a 30 year old for maybe a 2 year deal but he has a name and rep and still plays well. I see them signing low costs vets at Guard (2 as a lot are available) so they could draft OG high. TE, LB (Van Noy for the right price would be nice) and safety so they can draft what ever they want (but they do have Burris and Franklin). Then drafting QB at 8, LT in 2nd. OG in 3rd. CB in 4th..... If all 4 QBs are gone by 8, I really see them taking LT Slater at 8. OG in the 2nd or possible 3rd too. That would make the O-Line set for the next 5 to 6 years. DL is solid with Matos, Burns Obada, Kerr & Brown. Still got Haynes at DE. Need 2 more but not a priority. I don't see them trading up and losing picks. They want to build through the draft and we are not even a few players away. There is the possibility of running one more year with TB (just saying).
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While I agree he's a late 1st rounded and I would take him easily with our 2nd pick, but he won't be there. But as you've stated him physical limitations is describing Tom Brady and look how he turned out, and that's what some people see (right or wrong). Jones just might have the smarts and pocket awareness and accuracy to succeed in the NFL. If we can't get Watson or Fields or Wilson. I would take Wilson or Lance but not at 8. I would take LT Slater at 8 and then try to move up with my 2nd round pick if their either are available to around 18 to 20 in the 1st.
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Chad Reuter’s mock has us taking Fields
musicman replied to JawnyBlaze's topic in Carolina Panthers
Lance is not a top pick and not worth the chance at 8 (IMO). He had 1 great year... 2 years ago, against lower talent. He's got talent but not early 1st round. Fiends or Wilson fall, awesome. Either move back or take another position. -
Chris Simms Just Released his 2021 QB Rankings
musicman replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well his short term record is fairly accurate. Maybe we are all reading into the hype. Mac Jones could be like a Tom Brady or Eli Manning. Trey Lance hasn't shown enough over time. Everybody can have a great year (Mac Jones too). Maybe we can drop down and still get a good QB? -
We won't sign him. Wrong side of 30 and coming off a down year. Unless he'll except about 2 mil or less it ain't happening. The Panthers have clearly stated they want to get younger and faster.
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NBC's Peter King wont be suprised if Mac Jones goes ahead of Lance
musicman replied to ncfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I would love it if LT Sewell fell to #8. Extend Moton and we are set for 4+ years at tackle. -
Kiper Mock 2.0: Mac Jones to Panthers at #8.
musicman replied to Proudiddy's topic in Carolina Panthers
IDK, If we can slide back to 13/14th (Pats will take him at 15) and grab an extra pick (say a 2nd round) and then get Mac I wouldn't be upset. Not straight up at 8. The new GM doesn't look like his model is to draft 1st round QBs so I'm not sure they take a chance on Lance. -
I wouldn't give up any of those 3 guys. That's the future. I think we can't afford Watson unless Watson plays hardball with the Texans and forces their hand closer to the draft or season. Draft a QB and sit him for a year and build around him for the future. If not, just keep building a young roster and building cap space when you can get the right QB. We are not winning the SB in the next 2 years any way.
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Good Observer article on Teddy and other QB stuff
musicman replied to ladypanther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Teddy was also brought in because of the uncertainty with Cam and his health. Covid prevented us from seeing Cam up close when they needed to know if he was healthy. If they did, I have a feeling that might have rolled with him for last year without an extension. Teddy was a good risk. Last year, he didn't have a O-line and CMC but more then that, Teddy hasn't played a full season in years. With no training camp to really get in football shape, I think he wore out towards the end. If he's our QB next year (draft pick or not), I can see a better Teddy with a better O-line and a healthy CMC and a better defense to get off the field on 3rd down. -
ESPN Predicts Watson to be the Panthers starter in 2021
musicman replied to Big Sexy's topic in Carolina Panthers
Watson had a great year last year... but the team didn't. if we give away the farm to get him and have to pay him a lot, it will be the same as in Houston. Not enough talent around him and that's a 4-12 team. I would love to have Watson but not at the price it will cost to get him. We need a team around any QB we have before thinking SB. Even Mahomes struggled in the SB with no real O-line (I know it was injuries but the point is the same). -
What if KK restructured and took a big pay cut knowing he may not get a decent new deal from someone else? He's a great guy (locker room and community presence) and 2018 was not his fault (Washington was the DC). He's got some thread left as he's rested the last 2 years.
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Not every released vet is going to get a nice paycheck. With a lower cap, some will be left with their hands out and will take lower (kind of like Clowney last year, couldn't get what he wanted). I really believe they will get several starters in FA and then let the draft fall. I would get a Mariota f(lower cap) or developing a draft pick or in case we can't get one. I like Teddy but how could he play where he wasn't wanted? If we can get a 4th round pick (or nay pick) just for them to take his salary that would be great). I was really hoping Teddy was gonna work out. But let's face it. The Bucs are the team to beat for at least 2021, and GB, Buffalo along with KC are all near or at the top of their game. Let's just look to build for 2022 and beyond. Get young and strong, build depth and a complete roster that by the draft and FA of 2022, their's only a few holes to fill, not as much as we have now. In 2020 I just wanted to see a spark. In 2021 I want to see progress, win some tough ones, a nice come back or two. By 2022 I would love to see a powerhouse mentioned along with KC, GB, etc. Just being realistic.