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So far, the High look overview from weeks ago is right on. DE, CB, DT, TE, LB, WR - improve in the one areas with somebody and getting DT Brown back, keep Mayes and Brady C on the O-line, we've got a fighting chance for the division next year. Just saying...
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Dang. Hold on to it, we win.
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If we draft a WR, I would't until the 2nd or even 3rd round. We need edge, DL or CB with the 1st pick and possibly the 2nd. Speed is great but one that catches everything, a young Thielen/Kupp type.
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We may have given up a lot for Bryce, which puts more pressure on the whole trade to work out, but it's coming around. If he plays like a top 15 QB, we can build a team around him. The CMC trade brought us the picks needed and looks like with his injuries to be the right call. A helluva talent, but injury prone. We also did the right thing a not giving Burns the big money as he's done nothing big. Yes, trading with the Rams would have been the biggest robbery of the century but even getting a 2nd was good (we would have only gotten a 3rd as compensation anyway). Those picks shaped what we did and what we are doing and if bryce continues to be better, we have a QB for at least next year and we can see what happens. He did not lose today's game and without Sanders and Coker he didn't have all his weapons and still almost pulled it out. Trust in Morgan and watch Canales get them all on the same page and playing like a team. A few more signings and one more draft and we can be a playoff team (if we kept playing like we have the last few games). Hope! Keep Pounding!
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Lets be clear, it's still gonna take a few more good games stringed together by Bryce for fans and maybe the FO to feel good about starting him 2025 (maybe signing a legit vet to compete). But it's the best scenario for the team if he works out so they can build around him. He's a good guy and we should be rooting for him (even if you have doubts) until proven otherwise. The only trade/move that didn't look so good is giving up DJax (a solid corner) but there had to be something of why Morgan and Canales didn't mind giving him up.
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Start with Bryce, this is like his rookie year. The 1st 2 games proved her was wired wrong and it looks like (we hope) he needed a time out to reset and be the player that was drafted. He's still about a year or more away from being a top 15 QB, if the Panther give him another playmaker or 2 (a top WR and a decent TE) and maintain that line. Canales deserves credit as playing that card correctly to motivate (or refocus) his QB for one last shot to decide his and the Panthers immediate future. As a Panther fans we should hope he keeps improving as we invested so much to get him. CJ Stroud will never have a season like he had, even if he stays a top 10 QB. He's got great character so I'm rooting for Bryce to continue on his positive journey. Canales is playing the week to week thing with bryce perfectly. Nothings guaranteed, earn it weekly which builds consistency and consistency is greatness. Keep the O-line. They've got to extend Brady C, along with Mayes that have a real good 7. Great job Morgan starting with the big guys upfront. I really hope they draft a DE or OLB in the 1st round. Getting Brown back with A Robinson and what DJ has shown that we can have a decent D-line. Need a CB in the early rounds/ or a time FA to go with Horn. The future as to next year being good enough to challenge for the division is within reach. Just show progress (win or lose) every week. Kudos to Dan Morgan. Plays GM like a LB. Tackle the problem and move on, don't just hope it works out. Find guys with your playing mentality and work closely with your HC to share a vision. Teamwork starts at the top and flows down.
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I really believe the playbook is simple because of so many rookies and a 1st year offense. New O-line players (but vets) with now a 2nd year center. 3 rookies at WR and TE. I hope as they grow it keeps opening up and Canales feels he can trust them. Same on defense. Rookie MLB, rookies on the DL. A rookie at slot DB. But right now he's always said, just do the basics and be good at it, then you can develop into more. Good steps early enough to save the season as in it gives the team and fans hope for the future as to they are building in the right direction. A good showing, even if we lose against KC will be another nice step forward.
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If Bryce plays good we either give him another year and keep building OR get a decent pick for him the better he plays. Would you take Sam Darnold back? Or someone like him? I think taking a QB with a high draft pick is a possibly another 2 year set back if it doesn't work out. Next year they can be competitive and really be rolling by 2026 with the right moves.
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Bryce plays better every game and finishes with decent stats and a few wins? Doesn't have to set records, just keep improving. DJ Wonnum is back to being healthy at DE and helps generates pressure and a few sacks with Clowney? Adam comes back as the slot receiver and between him Coker and X, they start getting around 300+ yards as a group per game? What if JT Sanders is the real deal and is developing into a top 10 TE? What if MLB Wallace is a more than solid player in the mold of a Dan Morgan? What happens if Brooks is a great 1-2 punch with Chuba and they average well over 100 yards per game? What happens in Horns stays healthy and we have a true shut down corner? What is the O-line continues it's dominance? 4 wins or 6 wins, maybe even 7, doesn't matter. The team shows improvement and plays like a team and it was injuries and a new mentality needed by the team and HC to turn this around. Would you be supportive? Still negative (same old Panthers)? Looks like to me we had a turn around year to be positive about and few more add ons (draft & FA) and this team could at least compete for the playoffs in 2026. Health is #1 and having a system in place for a 2nd year would be huge. No matter how the year finishes, those points are what I'm rooting for.
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They probably announced he's going to be release so somebody that wants/needs him may give up a 7th round pick. This happens quite often. Just gotta see if they get something for him.
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If We Don't Win Another Game. Do We Make Any Trades??
musicman replied to Hoenheim's topic in Carolina Panthers
More picks in the mid rounds the better (obviously the higher the better). Keep Chuba with Brooks (and Blackshear) for next season and beyond. WR Johnson (I like, but understand the business) is a potential trade to a team WR needy (ie: Chiefs). Maybe you get a 6th for Mingo. I would not trade Horn or Brown. Keep the O-line together (or as much as possible). Miles Sanders might get a 5th or 6th if we eat some of the contract to a team in need. Even Dalton could get you a pick if any injuries happen in the league and we are back to playing Young (which I believe deserves another shot). We all need to see, especially the Panthers before the off-season. Canales needs time and his players. By the end of next year we should see a direction (hopefully up) leading to a 2026 playoff contender. These are the lean years but we have to try and stay supportive. -
Albert Breer: Panthers WR’s possibilities for Chiefs
musicman replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I can see the Panthers trading Miles Sanders away and either eating his contract for a higher pick and getting a very low pick for the other team to take it on. I can see them trading D Johnson for a 2nd to the Chiefs, maybe a 2nd (2025) and a 6th in 2026. They need a WR bad. I can see B Young to the Dolphins for a 3rd and a 7th. If teams get desperate. There's a fine balance between giving up and still trying to win (even if you don't win). Miles and Young have the least impact on the performance. Even though we lost Sunday, we all kind of felt maybe we could pull it out on offense, we just have too many injuries on defense. We'll get guys back soon. Give the Panthers/Canales credit, they have shown just because they pay or draft somebody, they will do what ever it takes to try and win and they should have our support and patience to hopefully get where we all want them to be. -
I just hope fans turn up loud and stay supporting even if we struggle. We just might pull it out with some juice in the building.
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If he gets an extra 2 year deal out of a few more games like last week, that buys the Panthers time to figure out the long term QB move. I wonder what Canales would have done with having Darnold this year?
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Albert Breer with top analysis of Bryce situation
musicman replied to NAS's topic in Carolina Panthers
What's the scenarios: Dalton plays well and they win some, Bryce remains a back up the year. Dalton plays well and gets hurts (hope nothing serious), Bryce jumps back in and we see what happens. He plays well, we're back on track. He doesn't, he probably gets traded in the off-season. Dalton struggles, They give Bryce a try again. Again - He plays well, we're back on track. He doesn't, he probably gets traded in the off-season. In a team concept, having Bryce play well and building around him with talent is the most economical way to improve (building around a QB on a rookie contract). Or Canales proves he can get any vet QB to play well and they get a decent vet and build a solid team around that. I feel for Bryce as he probably has PTSD from last year and all the negative that was around him. I believe this was a Canales move and he deserves credit for thinking team over an individual or an investment. He's very positive but don't mistake kindness for weakness. -
It would mean a lot to me if the Panthers won this week
musicman replied to hepcat's topic in Carolina Panthers
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I just wanna play "Sweet Caroline" at least 6 or 7 times at home this year! Actually, fun and exciting games means I get to play more "fun" music throughout the game leading up to Sweet Caroline at the end.
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I think this year is as much about Canales as it's about Young. Even if Young is not the guy, which I believe he will be a very good QB, having a HC that will be here for 6 years or more is what will bring consistency and eventually winning football.
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It's temporary re-tool. The mixed of vets and those big FA signings is to see what Canales and Young can do together. Can they build around Young and does Canales have what it takes. They gave them enough tools to give them a chance to be competitive. All smart moves. If it works out that we have 6 to 8 wins and a competitive team, they can continue to build around young and give Canales what he wants/needs, even if that means 15 or more new guys next year.
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The players the Panthers will pick up will be released the last day, not now.
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Inside The Numbers: Panthers at Bills in Preseason Week 3
musicman replied to Carolina Panthers's topic in Carolina Panthers
All we should want this year is a very competitive team that's in every game. 6 wins to 8 wins would be nice, but with a legit chance towards the end of every game to win. That will win over the fans and put more people in the seats at home games. That GB loss last year is an example of how we came back, the fans were loud and we almost beat a superior team. BofA had some juice in it that day. -
There's pros and cons for not playing your starters, but here's a thought. Canales is a positive guy looking to build on positiveness. What would be better than a quick 2-0 start to build confidence and give the season (and fans) a chance! If nobody has any real film on the new offense, then how can they game plan against us and maybe we get a jump on a win or two with a hyped up team with a slight edge. An early lead gets your defense rushing the passer easier. A quick lead keeps your entire playbook open. A first win gives a boost in confidence and maybe gets a few more fans in the stands for game 2 the home opener. There are many reasons, but that is a possibility that's one of them, (not the main reason). And you all know if they come out and play solid and hard and actually win, you'll all be more interested to see if they can follow that up at BofA. We might not make the playoffs, but a 7 to 8 win team that's battles every game and has some potential will carry over big time into next year and with the fan base. If Canales can be positive, why can't us fans? I hope we start a new chapter and come out to BofA loud and proud and give the team a chance with fan support. Trust me, being there, it makes a difference.
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REPORT: Panthers changed the offense 3 times last season
musicman replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
That's a very good article.