JRaymond

And, what does that thread show exactly, that QBs' feet leave the turf when making off-platform shovel passes and off-platform throws while scrambling? Well, no poo Sherlock! I'll ask you again, and please be sentient just long enough for you to read and comprehend my original question: show me another NFL quarterback whose feet (both of them) leave the ground at the same time before hip rotation when throwing on-platform deep balls.

No, it went from me complaining about his terrible throwing technique to you defending him by saying that plenty of other QBs also have both of their feet off the ground when making on-platform throws. When I challenged you to show me examples, you couldn't, so you pivoted to showing a clip from his Bama days to prove that he doesn't do it on every throw. I didn't switch topic or pivot, because it was you who moved the goal post. I'd appreciate it if you could stop insulting my intelligence. So, can you give me some examples of other NFL QBs whose on-platform deep ball requires both of his feet to leave the ground at the same time before hip rotation? P.S. See what I mean when I say Bryce defenders are barely sentient?

How has the conversation pivoted? My contention has always been that Bryce is "one of the most physically limited, fundamentally flawed QBs ever" in the NFL, and that Bryce defenders have laughably low standards and are barely sentient. You showed me a couple of Bryce's throws as if they are proof that he's not as bad as his critics make him out to be, my Stroud clip just proves that you don't know ball.

Maybe sign Josh Rosen and trade for Zach Wilson?

Seriously? That's 34 air yards at best. I have yet to meet a Bryce defender who doesn't have laughably low standards by which they judge QB play.

Good lawd, look at the amount of rotation required for a mere 40-yard pass. No wonder he needs a runway for any throw beyond 50 yards. Can you think of any NFL quarterback today who has a weaker arm than Bryce? For reference, with a similar amount of hip rotation, Stroud slung the ball 69 yards. https://x.com/VatorSports/status/1728845724434186374

Show me another NFL QB whose on-platform deep ball requires both of his feet to leave the ground at the same time before hip rotation. Look at his legs, spread very far apart, including his thighs, with left leg at the front and right leg at the back. That's not a on-the-run throw. That's his patented hopping motion that comes with his deep ball which, due to his weak arm, requires him to launch is entire body into the throw, resulting in both of his feet leaving the turf from the forward momentum. This is just exceptionally poor technique.

He needs to stop doing that. He has to stop doing that. If he can't then he's got to be one of the most physically limited, fundamentally flawed QBs ever in the history of gridiron football.

He didn't go into a far better situation. He was responsible for creating a far better situation for himself and his teammates. This is what a generational talent and high draft pick at QB is expected to do: to change the culture for the better and elevate those around him. Stroud has that dawg in him, which is something that doesn't show up on fancy tests or analytics.

You misspelled COPE.

It looks like Charmin™ has found its next spokesperson...

Ahhhh, heart-warming pre-season fluff to nourish your soul! Personally, I like last season's episodes better.

Here are more fun facts about Peyton Manning's rookie season: Peyton ranked 3rd in total passing yards, 5th in passing touchdowns, 4th in 1st-down completions, 11th in TD%, and 8th in completions that were 20 yards or more. Now let's look at how Bryce compared to his peers: 20th in total passing yards, 28th in passing TDs, 21st in 1st-down completions, 31st in TD%, and 27th in completions that were 20 yards or more. To put it mildly, Peyton showed plenty of flashes as a franchise quarterback. Bryce? Not so much, almost none at all, as a matter of fact. Oh, and Peyton is legit 6'4", literally head and shoulders above Bryce. I sometimes wonder if Bryce defenders are sentient at all.

It's not the angle. It's a laughably bad photoshopped photo, and so many Bryce boys thirsty for copium fell for it. Bryce hasn't bulked up at all. He still looks like an amateur golfer.

It's a fun way for the kids to learn good table manners, and Bryce can learn a few QB skills from the kids. It's a win-win.

Stroud has been hinting at it for a while.

This is so painful to watch...