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its mickey loomis trying to save his job

the thing about it is though.... this could be just a media game. Our FO has been in lock step with HOU's FO for almost a year now. They have had to of built some sort of professional partnership through all of this. Althgouth its competitive league, you still avoid back stabbing people. You get recycled each staff cycle, so you need to be smart on how you build relationsships.

My thoughts are that the offer has already been submitted by the Saints. They heard things were going well for us, and then hit up Aaron Wilson with an email and called it "source info" to leak out there that they would offer even more. Aaron Wilson is the only reporting on this, so I'd assume he was the contact point.

Tepper is going to give Watson stake in the team, haha. Also, most likely hand him a hedge, and buy him a business he can have for when he retires.

and their center. Im trying to understand why Watson would want to go there after all of those options offered. They would have to build an oline from scratch... deplete their dline... still be broke.

i dont think it is the matter of worried about Watson and panthers, but the fact its the only thing that could go wrong in the best offer on the table.

@Vergeyoud expect at this point all parties want to have a trade done by start of FA right? So do you think there is urgency in this decision process?

So what’s the news ?

They can’t afford Watson. They are actually working on acquiring different. Not sure who though, maybe cousins or jimmy g.

ah okay - cheers!

Vegas thinks we are no longer the favorite:

The risk, percentage-wise, of retearing the ACL is about 5%, which puts you at about even with the other knee. - Dr. William Sterett

Its really a non issue. its been almost 5 years since that tear. Comparing his ACL injury is the same as comparing TB12's. They happened, they healed, they are well now.

So a rookie with a rookie with a horrible offensive line... still did better than TMJ on our roster. The bottom line is that TMJ isnt see as a valuable piece in a trade, he wont be in the deal unless there is 5-6 players invovled. Id move on from this concept.

uhh who did the texans have at QB last year? lol....

https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/13/panthers-package-texans-deshaun-watson-rare-opportunity/

Which position? Chinn is a positionless player on our defense as we have learned the last two years.

Bill OBrien is primarily the one to blame there

you can argue that all you want, but the stats wont support your argument. Nico had twice the amount of production with 1/3 of the game time TMJ had. Conley is a vet now and who is becoming an established deep threat. TMJ means nothing to the Texans.

Texans have Nico Colins, Chris Conley, and Brandin Cooks. They arent looking for WRs

I wonder if when the texans get to that final moment where they are going to accept a deal, that they pickup the phone and let Tepper know, he has one last chance. @ellis

Texans, Seahawks, and Saints forums/r's all have said the same thing "Panthers have better assets, they will win this deal" I guess people do see our rosters as talented outside of this circle. Maybe Watson and his Agent see it too.

If we are trading only defensive players away. Watson would have to be licking his chops with the young offensive roster we have here.

This at least imforms us that trading Wilson to get to Watson, was not SEA's orignal plan. ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports that the Seahawks did not consider Drew Lock a "throw-in" in the Russell Wilson trade. "There's a belief among some with Seattle that Lock's issues in Denver were a byproduct of a revolving door of offensive coordinators and a defensive-minded head coach," notes Fowler. Lock is a "viable fallback option," in Seattle's eyes. His three years in Denver strongly suggest the opposite, but with only Jacob Eason on the roster behind him and a fairly weak quarterback draft class, Lock very well could get another trial with the Seahawks.

Are you thinking you could get a first for Brandin Cooks, but not DJ Moore? I find that hard to believe.