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You understand that he hasn’t played a full 17 game season right?

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@Zappydef do these... because it appears Burns will have more than Pep did in both categories with less games

god I hate Taylor Swift.... she makes everything about her.

makes sense now. Still think the Lions could have gotten more. But what do I know...

for a 2nd round pick.... nicely done for the Steelers

based on Kunkel's history with this stuff... sounds like we are trading burns and moore

Brian Burns only payed 43% of our snaps his rookie year... Mack played 84% in his rookie year. Burns is getting better and better each year at a ridiculous rate. His TFL is top 5 in the NFL right now and on pace to be more than Mack has ever had. The reason we are standing pat and not agreeing to this 2 1sts is because Burns statistically worth more.

I wa shoping we'd go after him or gesiecki this offseason

Burns is on pace to have almost 30 TFLs this season.. the trade for BB isnt for what he did his first two years, its what he is doing right now.... so that alone should be an offer similiar to Mack. The bar has been set.

This is a greg olsen deal all over it. I dont understand how they only got what they did while giving up so 2 4ths in the process. Lions gave Vikings a top 10 TE and 2 4ths for a 2nd and a 3rd to a team that will most likely win the division. This is a prime example of a firesale at the buzzer.

Ill post again. here you go: Brian Burns with 9 games to go and Burns averaging .7 sacks per game, which would end him at 11.3 sacks on the year and a total of 37 sacks. Conservative estimate. Khalil Mack 40.5 total sacks his first 4 years. Game started difference is in Mack's favor heavily.... and games played will be one in BB's favor if he plays the rest of the year.

you dont plan for the future of a franchise with "well it could be better next year, so lets make the trade" ... you plan based of the floor potential and not the ceiling. Then it's a bonus at that point. This is probably the exact reason why there is no deal in place with the Rams.... if they are talking... then its for more picks to recoup any loss from the "floor"

Agreed. This is wrong season to knock Cousins.

There is a huge drop in talent around picks 12-14 in the NFL draft. Front office experts refer to it as the "talent shelf." Sometimes you get lucky and a guy you had as a top 10 slips late (Burns) other times you get left with what is there (Kadrius Toney)... If you can't land in the top 14 range... then your pick isnt as valuabel as you hoped.... mathmaticaly.

its math.... how is that not reality? They literally are using a scoring metric to make a decision... not hearts and feelings....

I am not making this up, as much you want to argue against it. This is the common thought process of GMs in the NFL. poo, even Fitterer spoke of this in one of his pressers.

I am sorry it doenst make sense, but that is how NFL front offices treat it. They do it on a conservative approach, because you dont know where that pick will land in the round. So you approach it as the worst possible outcome. The rule of thumb in the NFL is any future pick is viewed as -1 round. Im sure you can google this if you still feel this makes zero sense.

We thought DJ Moore was going to get a monster deal... look what he took. Burns' deal with the new cap ceiling could be more manageable than you think. You are just assuming the worst. He isnt going to get more than Garrett or Bosa.

The hockenson deal makes no sense... they could have gotten more for him. Also, why in the division? Something more to that story...

Any future first rounder is considered a 2nd round pick in the value charts. So we would be givin up burns for 2 2nds.

We dont even know how much Burns' contract is going to be... so you as a fan want to trade him because of an assumption?

i already posted the data in this thread because another person challenged it. You wont have to look far.

what does Cousins have to do with this?

sounds like they are shopping their defensive backfield. They just fired their secondary coach as well.