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Nobody is that stupid. That was some Fitterer foolery. I doubt we have the number one pick, and we shouldn't trade back unless we think that our guy is going to be there.

Gotta keep swinging on a QB, you just don't pay a king's ransom to take a swing. If you can't fill out the some of the roster with impactful day two picks, then you don't know how to draft. If Cam Ward is there, you don't pass on him. The same can be said for Jalen Milroe. I'd consider Sanders, Ewers and Beck, but it depends.

IIRC, Mrs. Tepper wanted Stroud.

You know that people are going to be gunning for Hunter and T-mac as well. Not to mention whatever lineman or EDGE is up there in the rankings. I haven't done a lot of homework, except on Ward, Sanders and Hunter. I didn't have to do any on Milroe. I've seen him beat the Dawgs twice.

I mean, Ward, Milroe and possibly Ewers and Beck. If we're picking top seven, it seems like someone's gonna be there. We just have to decide if any of them are franchise QB material (i.e., the real deal).

Then, who is our QB? At some point, we're going to have to draft and hit on one. I dislike trading prime draft capital to move up and take a QB. If one that's worth a damn is there, you have to take him in my opinion.

Dude, they've only had scant opportunity, and, yes, Wallace has played very well. His first week starting, he lead the team in tackling with 15 tackles (10 solo), and this past Sunday he had 9 tackles (6 solo) and one forced fumble and a fumble recovery. I don't know what more you want a rookie to do; Hell, any player.

Not one receiver has "popped like Nabers," you're being unrealistic. The light switch doesn't come on for all potential stars at the same time. Talent levels are different (though different receivers can specialize in different things), coaching is different, situations are different, and the last two speak to the fact that opportunities are different as well. Every receiver is not on the same time schedule. Legette has a greater learning curve, but he has flashed for sure [Even my son, who loves to rightfully clown the Panthers due to years of suckiness said that we may have something in Legette, and, take my word for it, that's saying something]. How you know that Trevin Wallace isn't a special talent is beyond me. He has certainly seized and made the most of his opportunity, and I've heard more than one analyst allude to the fact that he may be special. Moreover, Luke may be the best that I ever saw in some respects, so...but TD is in the same group with Beason and Morgan as far as I'm concerned, which was good, and Wallace has played good---very well. Don't downplay good play or flashes of talent just because your overall opinion of the team has been jaundiced by bad management, drafting and coaching for so many years. The Rhule-Fitterer Era is dead, and the Fitterer-Reich era crashed within seconds of takeoff. Don't downplay the bright spots for the darkness. Even fireflies are still amazing.

McCaffrey? He could pass Foster. That's a nice feather in his cap. I remember when people were telling me that he was a bum. I always said that if he could be productive behind bad lines, he could be much better behind good ones. Listen to TD sometimes.

Chuba is a good back, but he's not as dynamic as Brooks. I'm excited to see what Brooks can do behind the same line. Perhaps we can get some finishes peppered in with the chunk plays (meaning JB taking it to the house). That can be game changing.

Well you're looking at the worst case scenario, and honestly it appears that we have at least two starters, and, like it or not, that's considered a good draft.

I think that's kinda the point. The offense can't blame the defense for not putting up points.

I would say, "The bottom is still in sight." In my mind that's more accurate, relative to the play I've seen from our draftees and the acquisitions, but it also makes me feel better. Admittedly some of the key acquisitions this season don't have to be here next year, but at least we know that they can spot guys that can help, like DJ and Robinson.

I have been listening to your continual skepticism. If Legette, Wallace and JB (who should have the easiest path) turn out to be legit starters, that's a damned good draft. Coker, though undrafted, would just be icing on the cake. JT Sanders could still carve out a starting role as well, which would make 2024 an extraordinary draft. Coaching will play a part in all this, but I'd still say that the needle is moving up, not down for our youngsters.

You may be 100 percent right, and what I'm about to say is a hot take (perhaps born of growing skepticism), but Coker looks to be a better receiver than Canales does as HC. Sure, it's a whole helluva lot easier to be a receiver, but Canales also has a helluva lot more experience as a coach comparatively.

I know that some of that is talent, especially at the QB position, but a lot of that is coaching. We should be showing better on offense.

Canales gradually loses bits of credibility with me with every snap that Mingo gets that Coker doesn't get. One day all those bits are going to equal to a chunk. That was one of my hugest criticisms of Rivera: failure to get the best guys on the field---damn the seniority!

I've seen enough of Legette and Wallace to know that we had a decent draft. That's two starters. Brooks is just going to set things in stone. If 18 comes on, then this could be one of the best drafts in franchise history.

I accepted it a year ago. I also accepted that we had to let the situation play out.

Tanking is intentional, and it's meant to be sacrificial in order to improve. We've been sucking while purposely trying to to win.

We are here because of bad drafts and ill-advised deals. It all began with acquiring Darnold (or maybe even Two Gloves).

Hell, Jaycee wouldn't even be untouchable. It all just depends upon the compensation.

I think it's time to sell off some pieces for draft picks and embrace the tank full throttle. It's a waste of Adam Thielen's time for sure, and maybe Diontae Johnson's. We need to get Legette and Coker as many snaps as possible. Too late to deal Shaq.

They are dialing it in. That's a bad sign. It's uncalled for.