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It's a loaded question/request. Everyone hear knows that Bryce is a(n) historically small QB. As such he's kinda breaking new ground. That being said, he still doesn't have the weakest arm or run the slowest time, or displays the least amount of athleticism of pro-level QBs that has ever played in the NFL. Moreover, there is a legitimate argument that guys with NFL "average" physical tools do play and succeed because it's actually the mental tools which lifts your average NFL QB to franchise level. It certainly helps lift certain QBs into the NFL and leaves others with obviously superior physical tools on the couch. I am really not concerned with whether Bryce can chuck a ball 70 air yards down the field. That physical skill is vastly and highly overrated. What I am concerned about is whether he can win, and win consistently, with proper reads, timing, precision and accuracy.

I will bet anyone a beer that Cherelus makes the cut.

This may be true, but you've had way too many, or perhaps the few of the extremely vocal, talk in terms of absolutes. They're always trumpeting how Bryce is not an NFL-level QB. They don't say "probably not," or "maybe not," they say "is not..." It's one thing to express skepticism, and even criticism, but another thing to engage in consistent judgmentalism and even derision.

Speaks to the clusterfûck.

No pass rush

Damn, fell asleep on the first series. What I miss?

Dude was really positive about Bryce's day. I mean, maybe Tepper paid him to say nice things...

HOT TAKE Vikings v. Panthers in NFCC

HOT TAKE Super Bowl!

Technically, there is no hierarchy, but people reserve the flame for something they really like. It's just a Huddle cultural thing. HOT TAKE The best emoji available to use in the huddle comments is this one:

I am highly skeptical of Bryce, but I also acknowledge that he was in a terrible situation last year. I would think that any honest Panthers fan will acknowledge that truth. And all that being said, right or wrong, Bryce is going to get his opportunity to show that his decidedly terrible play as a rookie was more the result of bad coaching and being in a bad situation than just being bad. I have doubts, but, intellectually I know that the possibility that he's markedly better than he showed last season is just that: a possibility. As such, I'm not interested in taking part in a whole lot of back and forth about how much he sucks. It just doesn't interest me. I'm just going to wait and see what unfolds and develop my opinion from there. Y'all have heard me say it before: Crystal balls are overrated. I'm certainly not going to set any opinion in stone based upon the disjointed collaboration and unholy concoction of coaching that took place last season. We were a sh¡t show on offense for multiple reasons, outside of Bryce, and it's impossible to figure out what players (coaches, coordinators and managers included) bore what percentage of the responsibility.

Come on, man. Your response to his post is weaker than Bryce's arm.

No way that I believe the Panthers would have to include anything. If that's the case, then Dallas may as well not even look this way. I could see maybe giving a late round pick if you're trying to dump salary, but a mid rounder is preposterous.

I don't know. Hadn't heard that, but to be totally honest, having an "innovator" is great, but just give me a coach with situational awareness and who's able to call the appropriate play out of the playbook at the right time. You don't have to reinvent the wheel to be a great coach.

Old timer? Are you even 50 yet?

I think that we should push a trade to the Cowboys---make them believe they need him, which they very well could benefit from acquiring him. "According to a recent report from ESPN, the Cowboys have a list of external options at running back in case they feel like they need to add another. On that list is reportedly Carolina Panthers running back Miles Sanders." https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cowboys-have-list-of-external-rb-options-including-panthers-miles-sanders-per-report/

The Honey-do list takes priority over everything, my friend.

Scot and I used to have as contentious a relationship as any on here, but I've never considered blocking him. He's an interesting, knowledgeable Panthers fan. I mean Scot and I have had some epic arguments. I mean back and forth for days. The thing is, for me, it was probably more about how I perceived that the mods handled him than Scot himself. I could always handle my own, but fighting city hall is tiresome at times. That being said, I believe things have gotten better on that front, and, ironically, Scot and I tend to agree on more and more things as we age. I have halfway kidded about this in the past, but when Scot and I are in full step, more than likely Huddlers might want to take note.

Yep. Can any of us really imagine the implications of firing Dave Canales after one season? [Yeah, I know, everyone is imagining it right now] There's zero chance of that happening. Tepper simply has to be emotionally tired of firing coaches at this point. Sheer weariness will cause him to naturally just sit down and shut the fuçk up for a couple of seasons at least.

Hell, the only reason that we would even see Bryce on the list is because have to have someone in the slot. They had to include more than 32 QBs on the list of best QBs in the league just to include us in the ranking. Now that's bad. They had to do like a top 40 list or something...

I plan to give him time, maybe even two to three years, but if we don't start seeing at least some palpable change, then his energetic positivity is going to get old real fast. People will feel more vibes from a salesman than substance from a savant.

It's all skid marks.

I mean, I appreciate your trying to make it analytical, but, honestly, we'll know it when we see it. A "jump" is relative. He has to jump leaps and bounds before I'll be happy. Even if he makes a jump, but it doesn't measure up to the bare minimum of a franchise level QB, I just won't understand what we're doing here. I know that what a "franchise QB" is is a matter of definition, but I still believe we'll know it when we see it, and stats aren't going to give us that answer.