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He's just holding onto the ball too long. If your ready isn't there, it just isn't there.

Well, looking at the pic, I guess it's been more Cinerator. LOL

So much for a higher pick.

Ha ha. I didn't even notice that myself. Of course I've been alternating shots of Cinerator and Fireball... What a pun, however unintentional. That was funny.

I mean, this season was impressive. I hate that when the rubber meets the road, his coach decided to turn into a pumpkin.

You gotta have more time than that though. Oops. Wrong thread.

Darnold needs to exercise those ghosts right now, otherwise his career will be haunted from now on.

Darnold going Darnold.

No, I've listened to these guys for decades. TB12 is not so much better or worse than any of them. Damn, Darnold just fumbled.

I mean, I don't know what y'all are looking for for. They're not talking politics out there.

Everyone knows what you've said about McMillan. Anyway... Bryce's so-called limitations surely didn't look all that important during his play the latter part of the season. But, keep hating.

I think y'all are being hard on Tom because he's TB12. Sure, he looks a little mannequish in his appearance, and, no, he doesn't have the more animated delivery that Olsen has, but he still drops good tidbits of football knowledge (which is why Olsen and Romo are good). I don't hate him, but he'll likely go all-Raider anyway and be out. Olsen isn't out by any stretch. I've seen him on something.

All I'm saying is that, like every team every year, we can re-judicate every draft, but it's going to take time to actually get a clear picture.

Every time I saw Williams dominating, I think of the possibilities as well. He's not a lock to fall to us though.

We should've taken McConkey over XL. His game would've fit perfectly with Bryce's game, and both are high football IQ guys. But, it's still really too early to be making definitive statements about most of these players in general. You probably want to give it at least a couple of seasons, if not three. And keep in mind that some guys are alwats going to learn quicker, and some positions are simply just easier to learn.

I mean, if that's what you consider "significant." In reference to the WRs, some of these guys are playing because someone is hurt. I've been watching these guys, and though their teams were playing, the only receiver that really made a significant impact is Ladd McConkey. The other guys have been brought along pretty slowly. McMillan obviously had to get more play because of Godwin. The jury is hardly out on any of them, save for McConkey who is obviously the real deal.

Some of you don't seem to understand how horrible a situation Bryce was in last year. You don't appear to fathom the scope. For all intents and purposes, it did absolutely nothing for his development as a pro but set him back. All that being said, I'm giving him a mulligan for that. His rookie year literally was 2023, but his rookie year was effectively 2024. From that perspective, things are not as black and white as you're trying to make it. On an off note, you're proclaiming Bryce will never be a top 20 QB in the near future (if ever for the effect that the next five years would have outside the top 20), but you're already essentially claiming Tet McMillan a top 5 receiver. That's interesting.

Like everything else, it depends upon the value. I'm vehemently opposed to spendthrift ways when it comes to draft capital, particularly first round draft picks.

Who has passed judgment? Y'all are a piece of work. You act like stating the obvious current trend on QB efficiency on two young QBs, including ours, is passing judgement. I know some of you have a difficult time comprehending, while others of you feign it. The story hasn't been written on either Stroud, or, more importantly, Bryce Young. As I am a Panthers fan, I am infinitely more interested in discussing Bryce, and not just in a negative sense whenever the topic of Stroud comes up like some...and I'm not going to apologize for it, and I'm not going to apologize for being tired of the understated shots at Young whenever the two come up, and I'm certainly not going to continue to discuss either of them within the context of the past, and definitely not going to negate the larger context of their current situations when comparing them presently and speculating about the future. Deal with it!

I ain't complaining. Wildcard Weekend is like a box of chocolates.

Who didn't watch? WTF are you talking about about? I know you can read and comprehend. Let me say it again for you: Stroud was pedestrian his sophomore year, so much so that Bryce closed the very wide gap on him in reference to QB efficiency. Deal with it! The move was to wait for the QBs in 2025. That was the move. And that's what a betting man would bet the house on moving forward.

He only had one game that was not really respectable after being benched, and that was against Dallas. His career game, so far, was of course the last one.

Are you gonna call Coach Cowher a retard too. Even he and others acknowledged that Stroud was only good during the second half. He took off not quite near the beginning of the third quarter. Of course the defense was making it a lot easier for him, but like I said, concentrate on that half of football. That's your best bet, because Stroud did not play great this season, or even good as the season went on. Bryce was certainly better later in the season. Deal with it!

We know the situations, including stability, chemistry, coaching, and even wide receiving corps despite injuries. So of course the stats are going to go Stroud's way. That's to be expected. You can't even really compare the two. But what I will say is that if you look at just sheer progress the second half of 2024, the advantage is not so black and white, and that's why advanced metrics have to be analyzed a little more than just basic production. It's also why percentage-based stats are pretty important to study as well. As for total QBR, which some experts consider the best QB measurement, I'm fairly certain Bryce was ranked higher than Stroud, notwithstanding such a dramatic season, and it also speaks to much better play during the second half of the season. https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2025/01/07/all-32-nfl-quarterbacks-including-bo-nix-ranked-by-total-qbr-in-2024/

I'm wasting time and missing the game debating with y'all.