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Not "really."

I agree with you there. All I'm saying is that we should just keep things in perspective (different circumstances, ages and all that). My hot take (which I guess it is considering the responses) is purely based upon Bryce's comments. I don't think he was talking out of his ass.

I don't think anyone said that they would. He's young, has some pop, can help on special teams, but he's going to have to play his way up the depth chart (over several guys, including Renfrow) due to the pecking order. He has a lot to learn and a lot to prove, the primary thing being that he belongs in the league. The next month is important for him.

But why chop off career stats and not look at respective circumstances in general? It's really convenient to support a decidedly negative narrative to begin at 2022 when 2021 was a career year, 2023 was a "sick" year and 2024 doesn't count due to the same sickness. Moreover, there's a pretty big gap between 29 and 34 in regards to a football career and how it relates to production and even expectation. There's an argument that Renfrow still has a few years left in his prime. Thielen? I don't know about that. All I'm saying is that keeping everything in perspective is perhaps the wisest path.

Not a whole lot after the first day of camp, but it's more than we've had for the last few weeks. Didn't realize Jewell did us a solid.

I mean, it was a different time and different place under different circumstances with different surrounding players. It's extremely difficult, if not essentially disingenuous at the end of the day, to project what Renfrow can do this season based upon that. Moreover, you also have to realize that he was diagnosed in 2023 with ulcerative colitis.

I disagree. He is an experienced veteran and past Pro Bowl receiver who is a very adept route runner. Is it really a stretch to think that he could see the third most targets and receptions in a decidedly super young WR corps (minus one old guy who has one foot in retirement)? Renfrow certainly saw the most targets on day one of camp.

Here's more evidence for you non-believers. "Adam Thielen, Jalen Coker, Xavier Legette, Tetairoa McMillan, and Jimmy Horn Jr. all figure to be central pieces of the offense, and that doesn't even include David Moore. But among all of them, none of those names were the most targeted by Bryce Young on Wednesday. "According to Mike Kaye of the Charlotte Observer, Bryce Young has developed "notable chemistry" with the veteran wide receiver who was out of the NFL just last season due to an illness. In fact, Kaye reported that no wide receiver saw more targets." https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/news/surprise-panthers-wr-most-targets-bryce-young-training-camp Don't downplay chemistry, and don't downplay good and practical NFL experience.

I already basically said why, but here is some more food for thought: Yes, a "harmless" strip sack can lead to some bad outcomes, and we don't need unnecessary possibilities of unnecessary problems.

Chastising the rookie isn't a big deal either. It seems that you just are making much ado about nothing in your zeal to criticize Canales. This is TC. We're going to see all kinds of turnovers and other mistakes. It's not a real concern at this point.

No. I've seen plenty of freak injuries in my time, and that includes hands, wrists and fingers. He needs to follow the rules period. Canales was absolutely right to send this type of message. There's a time for touching the QB, and training camp is not one of them. Any teammate should easily understand why you shouldn't hit the QB.

You said it before I did. How stupid would we look and what predicament would we be in to lose Bryce on an overzealous play during training camp? My, oh my, we need Bryce practicing...and we need him on the damned field because he's not only the best QB that we have, ostensibly, but because we need some closure to the question of whether or not he's a franchise QB. Hands off during practice!

Reading into this much? Yeah. Yes, I am. If I had to bet whether Hunter Renfrow would make the team when he was signed in the shadow of the 2025 draft, I would've already inked Hunter Renfrow on the roster. After Bryce Young's presser on what's essentially the first day of camp, I'm saying that Renfrow is a lock (provided he stays healthy of course) based upon Bryce's comments. Sure, it could just be simple QB-speak, but for me it was just a tad too in depth---too specific for that. "Just seeing his, he has such a great feel for the game, versus man, versus zone. He just has a great, great knack for getting open," Young bragged of Renfrow. "He understands concepts, understands defensive leverage, does a really good job at the top of routes, creating separation, giving indicators, really friendly and easy to throw to as a quarterback. So, you know, super excited to continue to build chemistry with him." https://www.panthers.com/news/bryce-young-s-third-training-camp-brings-confidence-and-consistency So you may consider it going out on a limb to say Renfrow is a lock, or a hot take to scoff at, but I feel cool and comfortable as a Panther perched out here on the edge.

Not paying $30 a month for that.

I think that he was referring to Rhule and Fitterer's management. His last sentence suggests that he is hopeful in Dan's management. We'll know the answer by the time 2026 is done though.

It's much too soon for the "Holy air ball" comment, and saying he can do "everything" Nalo can do is simply a stretch. He's not as smooth a route runner, isn't as fast, nor does he provide the catch radius. Warren improved in drops last season, but honestly, Tetairoa has better hands as well.

If our season hinged upon Josey Jewell, then we were screwed from the get-go. Relax, people.

He competed at OTAs. He's ready to go.

Why would Shaq come back here when he's playing for the Bills?

Might be time to go back to the farm and the juicery and call it a career. He made it farther than many thought he would. Might be time to hang up the cleats for the last time.

Trevin Wallace and Claudin Cherulus will fill the void.

I played a guy named @rayzor in Hunting Sniper. Was it you?

Don't get me wrong. Bottom five is fine before 2025. If we're still bottom five after 2025, then we'll have a problem. It's possible, and, as you say, some would say probable. It all depends on the question marks. There's plenty enough NFL precedent however to give us hope, as there are surprises every year, and preseason rankings are never right.

If he has another good season, we're probably not going to get out of it, as that's just the nature of the beast. The salary cap goes up and salaries go up. Maybe we won't have to pay him that high, but it will most certainly be in the neighborhood. As his season goes, so will his salary (provided that the two sides won't come together now (if there's anything even going on). https://catcrave.com/panthers-insider-sets-steep-ikem-ekwonu-extension-price-despite-rocky-nfl-ride