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Yeah, but that 24 percent winning season reality still stings. We can look at all the loser stats we like.

No one is "condemning him," but even "Coach" said he has to finish. And, yes, there are grumblings in media---not just on our message board---that we may need to acquire other options, the latest being Greg Joseph.

True, but that shouldn't stop you from trying.

Never ridiculous trying to acquire the best. Anything less is anti-football.

I appreciate what you're saying, but Vinatieri was the most clutch kicker ever. I can't say that for those guys (I'll take Boswell though).

Sorry, man, I just don't get the "we're not going to be competitive," argument. I think that developing a winning culture really matters. The kicker, perhaps unfairly, has undue weight on his shoulders. Though always seemingly understated, their importance is immeasurable. You can't see the rest of the guys working their asses off week after week to win, only to be let down by the kicker. It speaks to morale and a sense of security and belief. I don't know who Gino Garcia is (nice sports name), but I'll take your word for it that we should bring him in if available.

One of five on the skinny posts today. According to Person, two of the misses would've been good on regulation posts. Sixty percent ain't getting it done (rain, snow or shine). Everyone hopes you're right and that kid flips a switch in September, but if he keeps whiffing, he may not make it to September.

Now that wouldn't be a good look (on its face, and especially after the Deshaun Watson fiasco). I can see how his story would slick through the cracks outside of B-more, maybe you didn't know.

Kid's got the yips.

Dr. Jenkins brought up some really good points. That's a perspective that I never thought about (and I've heard the opposite here for decades now). I do know that when I was an innocent kid, maybe from aged four all the way up to a teenager, I was happy when my team won preseason games and less so when they did not. One must remember that the other team has future insurance salesmen too. Never got the "playbook confidentiality" thing. Hell, all the teams run basically the same plays anyway. "Vanilla?" That could be viewed as simply a rationalization for losing. Holding back starters for health concerns is reasonable, and, yes, that could affect the win-loss column in August. How about a compromise? "Trying to win matters in the preseason." I really appreciate Dr. Jenkins' perspective though, and I respect it.

They just signed Tyler Huntley, and it's reported that he'll be playing. Two greenhorns, huh? I'm not convinced that Sanders or Gabriel are necessarily better than Plummer at this point. And I know damned well that Dalton should outplay either one of them. You're talking about their third and fourth string QBs. Let's not get carried away with the new kids on the block.

OK, I know that it's wrong---I know that it's wrong---to put undue importance on a preseason game, but If we can't beat the hapless Browns with their trainwreck of a QB situation (and a still unsigned rookie RB), then who the hell are we going to beat? You can't lose to the damned Browns. Not this Friday.

Oh, sorry about that. Let us know about your son though. Good deal! Hopefully some of us will still be around and in our right minds in six years. It's an outstanding achievement just to get a scholarship. My great nephew (by marriage) was awarded a baseball scholarship to one of the two schools in Bluefield, West Virginia (can't remember which one). He couldn't handle the college life though and ended up returning home. It was all there in front of him...he just couldn't keep his priorities in order and let college life get the best of him his freshman year (hell, he didn't even finish the year). Keep your son close and keep working on him now about his priorities and attitude, and making responsible decisions (outside of baseball). He's young, but there's still a way to frame things in a way that he can relate. Sorry, just a little unsolicited advice.

Wow! Glad you made it and came out good as new.

Jon Gruden has an entertaining delivery. You won't see vids, but you will here his review, and he will take you to the whiteboard on occasion. He's not really committing to any prognostications, but he loves the O-line, expects a lot from the run game, and is decidedly optimistic about Bryce. He likes the defensive acquisitions that we have made in order to fix a terrible defense. If you're only interested in the Panthers, then go to 41:35.

I haven't seen anything, but for the drop at Fan Fest. I've heard of some plays being broken up, particularly one on Friday that he said he should've caught.

There's literally nothing they can do during preseason that will make me buy in. Win in September, and then maybe I'll begin to get excited.

The players and the coaches can learn a thing, for sure, but it sounds like David Tepper could learn a lesson from Dawn Staley as well. She may have been talking to the ownership of the WNBA expansion team, the Portland Fire, but she may as well have been talking to David Tepper. https://x.com/SarahSpain/status/1948903470721106025?t=sxiveMATKzcgzhTVY5URyw&s=19 “Give them a voice as they unveil the team, give them a saying and perspective. [You] may not take [their ideas], but even if [they’re] being heard, [they] feel a part of it,” she said. “Don’t leave them out. Don’t wait until [the team’s] already established to start listening. Start listening now because I often find that when you treat people good, they treat you better.” Staley doubled down on the importance of following her blueprint to build fan loyalty. “I hope that the owners really give the fans what they want,” Staley advised. “Like, hear them out. They are the consumers; they are the people that’s gonna buy season tickets.” Staley is talking about fans coming by her office, and Tepper won't even allow fans at practices. *Sigh* “South Carolina has been the leader in attendance for the last 10 years in college basketball. Little old Columbia, South Carolina,” Staley stated. “Mom and pop, you can come past our office, you can sit down, you can have a conversation with us. We give you access to us.” https://sports.yahoo.com/article/dawn-staley-drops-fan-building-222737800.html

This can probably be unpinned now. We were already accused of not caring about actual football and only here to debate over potential draft picks and trades.

I think depth is almost a surety.

Dabo sighting. Dawn Staley sighting. Who's next?

"South Carolina women's basketball coach Dawn Staley was in the house and talked to Panthers players and coaches about what it takes to reach a high standard." That's pretty cool, actually. She came to motivate the players and coaches (even though she is a Philly native and proud Eagles fan). I wonder if Jaycee and/or his girlfriend were the impetus behind the invite. Maybe it was the FO. In any event, I like it. https://www.panthers.com/news/dawn-staley-brings-her-message-and-championship-mentality-to-team-meeting

The altar of Tepper...

They're not going to put skinny posts on the real field. Plus, one of the reporters even referenced Fitzgerald's performance on the regulation posts in a question to Canales during the presser. Canales essentially said that Fitzgerald has to finish.

I mean, I get your point due to age, but at this point I think that it's way too early to say that Horn is better than Moore. Plus, they are different receivers. As for Coker being better, I think that his rookie season has provided him a better trajectory than Moore's career early on, and that it's easier to project Coker being a more impactful NFL receiver. But age, alone, will likely put Moore at a great disadvantage if he is considered redundant in correlation to Coker. Moore will not beat out a healthy Thielen or Renfrow. Their ceiling has simply proved to be much higher.