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The rebuild-retool thing is coach-speak. It doesn't matter as long as we're improving on the personnel side. That's the bottom line and reason for churning the roster.

We should trade for Metchie.

Churn, baby, churn!

Yeah, I think some are kinda blowing him up like David Gettis, whom I appreciated, but he was easily replaceable.

X marks the spot.

As I've intimateded before, there is a difference between criticism and and incessant griping about a players who were arguably put into situations to fail. If there isn't a moral high ground, there is certainly solid ground where wise fans root themselves in understanding nuance, context and grace in Bryce's unique situation.

Well, that's not Bryce's fault. Players, regardless of position or draft status, are still just players. As such, it's not necessarily fair or even analytical to judge them by draft capital spent to acquire them. The GM (and perhaps elements of the FO) deserves that criticism. To be clear, players are going to get criticized, but personally I stick to things that they can control.

I hear what you're saying, I do. I have my skepticism, as I've stated many times now, but a lot of QBs have been run down by a DL, or pulled down by a DL, fingers or not. We've also seen Bryce get away and scramble effectively. Each play across the NFL has a life of its own. Until I see more of Bryce in an average offense behind an average line, personally I am not going to draw any definitive conclusions. Last year was such a clusterfûck for so many reasons, I think that I can give him a few more games before totally giving up on him.

I get that, but a lot of this stuff is a matter of definition and opinion. Like "average." I mean, being able to legitimately throw 55 yards in the air, is that "average?" Being able to escape pressure consistently and gain 5-15 yards, is that "average?" I mean, did Bryce's failings last season really have to do with a lack of "above average" physical tools, or was it related to something else? Could it simply have been bad mechanics or bad coaching or a combination? I mean, I really didn't see anything wholly physically-related that suggested to me that he couldn't do the job but for possibly his height. For me, that's a big issue, but I can't even say with surety that it was a legit issue, and we have seen other short guys have some degree of success in the NFL.

It's a loaded question/request. Everyone hear knows that Bryce is a(n) historically small QB. As such he's kinda breaking new ground. That being said, he still doesn't have the weakest arm or run the slowest time, or displays the least amount of athleticism of pro-level QBs that has ever played in the NFL. Moreover, there is a legitimate argument that guys with NFL "average" physical tools do play and succeed because it's actually the mental tools which lifts your average NFL QB to franchise level. It certainly helps lift certain QBs into the NFL and leaves others with obviously superior physical tools on the couch. I am really not concerned with whether Bryce can chuck a ball 70 air yards down the field. That physical skill is vastly and highly overrated. What I am concerned about is whether he can win, and win consistently, with proper reads, timing, precision and accuracy.

I will bet anyone a beer that Cherelus makes the cut.

This may be true, but you've had way too many, or perhaps the few of the extremely vocal, talk in terms of absolutes. They're always trumpeting how Bryce is not an NFL-level QB. They don't say "probably not," or "maybe not," they say "is not..." It's one thing to express skepticism, and even criticism, but another thing to engage in consistent judgmentalism and even derision.

Speaks to the clusterfûck.

No pass rush

Damn, fell asleep on the first series. What I miss?

Dude was really positive about Bryce's day. I mean, maybe Tepper paid him to say nice things...

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I am highly skeptical of Bryce, but I also acknowledge that he was in a terrible situation last year. I would think that any honest Panthers fan will acknowledge that truth. And all that being said, right or wrong, Bryce is going to get his opportunity to show that his decidedly terrible play as a rookie was more the result of bad coaching and being in a bad situation than just being bad. I have doubts, but, intellectually I know that the possibility that he's markedly better than he showed last season is just that: a possibility. As such, I'm not interested in taking part in a whole lot of back and forth about how much he sucks. It just doesn't interest me. I'm just going to wait and see what unfolds and develop my opinion from there. Y'all have heard me say it before: Crystal balls are overrated. I'm certainly not going to set any opinion in stone based upon the disjointed collaboration and unholy concoction of coaching that took place last season. We were a sh¡t show on offense for multiple reasons, outside of Bryce, and it's impossible to figure out what players (coaches, coordinators and managers included) bore what percentage of the responsibility.

Come on, man. Your response to his post is weaker than Bryce's arm.

No way that I believe the Panthers would have to include anything. If that's the case, then Dallas may as well not even look this way. I could see maybe giving a late round pick if you're trying to dump salary, but a mid rounder is preposterous.