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No, I'm just waiting to see what we have this year without making assumptions. Any Panthers fan, if not NFL fan, knows that you don't truly know what you have until some point after the season begins. Add in the development necessary at some positions, and it could take a few years. It wasn't so long ago that people were calling Brown a bust. I'm waiting to see what happens. That being said, if Bryce doesn't get his act together a lack of clarity will probably be cast upon many.

Not really. You're just making assumptions, but I get it. Until there is some actual improvement, lots of Panthers fans are going to be negative about everything, and all moves will be wrong...until they aren't.

I disagree. No one is going out of their way to draft an RB in the first round unless they are a first round talent. There have been multiple drafts where no back was taken at all in the first round. Teams don't draft an RB in the first round because they're hard up for a an RB, weak class or not, they draft RBs in the first round because they believe that the RB is a game-changing back who generally can play all three downs if necessary without a second thought. Now you can argue that Brooks is not that guy, but many believe that he is. Before he suffered the injury, he was on a first round trajectory, and that's nowhere near a hot take.

Just like Clowney said, the team feeds off of the energy of the QB. The fact that Bryce is soft-spoken doesn't bother me, but he has to be saying, first, something that materially matters, and, second, in a manner---soft spoken or not---that inspires his teammates.

I mean, it's easy to discount the prevailing thought that if healthy Brooks was probably going to go in the first round. We took a chance, only inasmuch as he had an Injury, but with his prognosis judged to be pretty positive, we may have acquired a first round talent---thay is, a game-changing three-down back in the second round. As questionable as our talent is at the position, I have no issue with it. We aren't developing into a powerhouse in one season, so we can afford to take a chance.

Typical responses. You had to know that this was a possibility if not probability. Come on, people. The pick was an investment into the future, and most times that future is not so immediate.

I mean, I can't be excited with Bryce as the QB until he consistently shows something. I'll just wait and see. There's no cautious optimism, or any type of optimism, and that's really foreign for me this time of year as pertaining to the Panthers.

Elon Musk ain't it.

Well-deserved! TB12 has some big shoes to fill

Yeah, Brady...possibly Bradshaw and Montana. I would add that Mahomes is well on his way.

You can say "average" all you like. The stats simply do not support that. They don't in really any measure. I don't even think we will get Dak or necessarily even be interested. But you keep pining after all the unicorns that you think exist.

I do think Dak does that. Some of the guys that he has played with definitely benefitted from him getting them the ball. It's not like he's played with a bunch of elite weapons. I mean, as a young QB, he played with an old Dez and and old Witten. He played with Amari Cooper and Cee Dee for a year. Then it was basically just Lamb and Zeke before he aged out. A good O-line is to be expected. Any QB should be able to succeed behind an excellent line. Some do, some don't. Dak obviously excelled. I hate the Cowboys, and Dak hasn't been clutch during playoff time, but their failures in the postseason haven't been 100 percent on him.

It's somewhat dated because they had it for their contributors first, but it's still an interview. Coker was a Saints fan---Drew Brees fan coming up, but the good thing is that his dad is a long time Panthers fan, and that was part of Jalen's decision to come to Charlotte. He's a well-spoken young man that is humble and thoughtful about his craft. Worth the listen!

We've gone from wanting a franchise QB to an "elite" QB. Come on, people.

I haven't made any point but that "elite" is very much a matter of definition---it's subjective. Dak has been good throughout his career, and last season was one of his best. Of course he faltered in the playoffs, but so did several QBs. So if you're going to ding him, you must ding them all, except one. There is only one truly elite QB in the league, and we all know who he is. Dak is a franchise QB. Matt Ryan was one as well. Palmer was as well before he got injured. You seem to be suggesting that you can only win a chip with an elite QB. I say that you can win one without one. It's a team sport. The fact is, Dak's career passer rating and career QBR are in the good territory, as a I've stated. If you look at his last season, they were more than good. QBs with lesser ratings than Prescott have led their teams to a chip. Suggesting that most elite QBs will take a team bereft of a line and weapons to a chip doesn't make sense. It just doesn't. Mahomes and Brady are really the only ones that came close to that, and parts of their teams were elite if not most of their teams. Maybe Burrow can do it, but he's suffered some injuries that have directly affected his play and taken the shine off. You need at least a good team and a good QB. This pretty much shows itself every year.

Equating Dak to Brock Purdy...? Not buying it. Furthermore, "elite" is very much subjective. Dak is an above average QB, period. How good he is is a matter of opinion. Plenty of people that watch football, and those that play it, see Dak as good. He's better than anything we've had for a while, and better than many QBs in the league. Super Bowl teams, even good teams, are "loaded" to certain degrees. Put any QB behind a bad line and without talent, and they're not going to look good, much less elite.

This "non-elite" or average or slightly above average stuff simply isn't supported by his stats. Dak isn't the best out there, and sure he's never won a chip, but several notable QBs didn't win, until they did. I don't know how we'd pay him the highest contract in NFL history, so all of this is probably moot, but we could do far far less than Dak.

Where ya been? Yes, that's Ja'Tavion Sanders, a.k.a. JT

Yeah, if we could make it work, you sign him. All this talk about being a just above average QB is crazy. Dak is a top 10 QB, and his stats prove it. Give him a line and weapons, which we presumably have, and he'll be very good. I'm not going to ding a guy just because he's playing behind a good line and has a good wide receiver (as Dallas does). Dak is highly productive, and gives his team a good look every year.

It's a different vibe for sure. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about and his general plan---that which he tells the world---sounds like a working plan. Reich didn't seem to have a plan, and Rhule's plan was ill-suited for grown men. Reich coached like a zombie---just dead and uninspiring. Rhule thought that he could take his college guys and dominate in the pros, smiled in guys faces and threw them under the bus. His brand of motivation has plays running to a DBO sign. Canales seems to be schooled in motivation, but also believes the stuff he is selling down to his core. We'll see if it holds up.

It's true, but don't forget those metrics and how Bryce statistically was near the bottom of nearly every one of them. He should markedly improve (I mean, how can he not), but how much so is anyone's guess at the moment. Is he too short, noodle-armed and inaccurate to be a professional QB? That's still the question. Has he been "Kerred?" I hope not, but he wasn't particularly accurate from pressured pockets or clean pockets as the author said. We can only wait and hope that the new coaches can help Bryce by putting him in a better situation.

I just simply don't want a physically-challenged QB. I could see if maybe it's an aging star that can't throw it like he used to, but damn if we didn't pick a young guy who throws like an old guy. If we can get him to process like an experienced vet, then everything might turn out OK, until his arm actually starts diminishing when he starts aging. Hell, at that point he could be struggling to sling it 40 yards.

One thing that the author of the video believes, and provided some evidence to that effect, is that Bryce does process very well. It's just that the physical limitations set a pretty hard ceiling for attaining greatness. Basically, his ceiling is probably good but never great, due to his height, small size, and below average arm strength. With an offense that caters to his comfort window (which I said last week was in the short to mid level passing game), then perhaps we can maximize his strengths.

I think that literally throwing over pressure has to do more with his shortness and maybe athleticism than his arm strength. He misses all over the field from 10 yard touch passes to 35 yard out passes to 45 yard bombs when that pressure gets to him and he can't escape the pocket.

What's shampoo got to do with this? Ahhhh, maybe a short joke.