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Not trying to blow him up. He's a great special teams player though. I always considered him a smart player and wondered why he never got more time on the actual defense, but the coaches know more than I do.

You should know better than that. Bryce was under pressure sliding to his right, and his feet weren't exactly set. "Extremist optimists?" That's a stretch if I have ever seen one. Come on, Frank.

He want the only one, Rhattigan always plays with energy.

I know, right. People must've forgotten Dalton's record last year.

Every deal's valuation is based upon the details. Interest ultimately means little unless a deal is finalized.

There are more than a few NFL types, ex-players, ex-players turned analysts, and analysts in general that have said that Shedeur Sanders had no business falling to the fifth round. I've heard Browns fans say it, and other teams' fans say it. But here, on the Carolina Huddle, you still have Panthers fans clutching onto a narrative about all these questions about Sanders' ability that were largely magnified once he began to slide. Yes, on the months, weeks and days leading up to the draft, no one thought that Sanders would slide to day three of the draft, so the "5th round" distinction, though true, is not a pure representation of Sanders' talent and skills and what he actually brings to the table. Some believe he should have really been drafted in the first round, but a day two selection was at least believable. Round 5? Not so much, even to more casual NFL fans (at least that's my experience from talking to people, listening and reading). Now, of course, fans are just fans, what do they know? Sometimes, it appears that they know more than people who are actually paid to make personnel decisions (and that's not necessarily hyperbole). I tell you this because it's food for thought. Excuse me if I don't prioritize Panthers fans' opinions of Shedeur Sanders over people's who actually played the game, many current Browns fans, and other analysts who are paid to analyze for a living. It may have been too far outside the box to think that Sanders would have been given an opportunity to legitimately compete for Bryce Young's job in Carolina in light of the situation and the way that the Panthers' front office rolls, but I don't think it's a stretch to say that he could have been legitimate competition (round 5 or not).

Plenty of Clevelanders said that Sanders should get more snaps with the first team because he had actually been the best QB in training camp. So, we don't understand all the dynamics going on, but being named the "starting QB," especially for a rookie, is probably going to take more than two or three practices (especially before the first preseason game).

Hell, I didn't realize that they were talking about what happened in joint practices. They thought that heat was causing the issue, but it was a collapsed lung.

Hell, I was wanting us to draft Shedeur once he lasted to day three. I thought that he could add some legit competition, but it was never going to happen with us thinking so inside the box in terms of Bryce and what I call "draft position bias."

Yeah, that's kind of the point, but we must remember that we were so gutted as far as talent that rebuilding will take extra effort and won't happen overnight.

I mean, I can't say that people are "consistently fighting" against the idea as much as we're waiting to see how things turn out, especially in regards to rookies and second-year players. I mean, if we blow, we blow, but I ain't 100 percent accepting that we're going to suck based on a few preseason snaps. I have way too much experience watching the NFL for that. Hell, some guys ain't even playing in earnest yet.

Maybe not "terribly serious," but it can take 6-8 weeks to fully heal according to the web, depending upon the severity and type of injury. Hopefully it's not cracked ribs or anything that caused it.

The spectre of a preseason injury is always looming. You can't take plays during these games for granted. Now no telling how this all works out.

If his lung was pierced by an injury, that can cause it because leaked air can compress the lung. So can blood or another fluid.

Flacco could be a rich man's Dalton, but that's not saying much.

The Texans RB just took Henderson for a ride. Not a good look. Cut him.

Don't know if you're being serious, but if you are...that's because there were no highlights. It was all "lowlights." It was burned out lights, not even flickering. Now of course it was only two series, but still...

We fùcking suck!

Smitty is right about the evaluation process. We need to see better, or the guys need to be gone.

Well, it's not like a newsflash that we need depth. But after today, I think it may be worse than we imagined. Talking about churning the bottom of the roster, hell we probably need to do a little more than "the bottom." It's reminiscent of last preseason as far as I'm concerned. Dan Morgan needs to be extra active during final cuts, and perhaps remake---at least reimagine some position groups at the backup level.

This is Bryce's last stand. I don't think that he's going to have too many people talking up for him this year. It's "piss or get off the pot" time.

Their O-line seems to be getting push. Our O-line seems to be just hanging on.

Etienne has had a couple of nice runs called back by useless penalties.

He's been really the only positive today. If I split hairs, maybe Etienne was a positive. Thornton was solid last week as well

Metchie is not a speedster.