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I think depth is almost a surety.

Dabo sighting. Dawn Staley sighting. Who's next?

"South Carolina women's basketball coach Dawn Staley was in the house and talked to Panthers players and coaches about what it takes to reach a high standard." That's pretty cool, actually. She came to motivate the players and coaches (even though she is a Philly native and proud Eagles fan). I wonder if Jaycee and/or his girlfriend were the impetus behind the invite. Maybe it was the FO. In any event, I like it. https://www.panthers.com/news/dawn-staley-brings-her-message-and-championship-mentality-to-team-meeting

The altar of Tepper...

They're not going to put skinny posts on the real field. Plus, one of the reporters even referenced Fitzgerald's performance on the regulation posts in a question to Canales during the presser. Canales essentially said that Fitzgerald has to finish.

I mean, I get your point due to age, but at this point I think that it's way too early to say that Horn is better than Moore. Plus, they are different receivers. As for Coker being better, I think that his rookie season has provided him a better trajectory than Moore's career early on, and that it's easier to project Coker being a more impactful NFL receiver. But age, alone, will likely put Moore at a great disadvantage if he is considered redundant in correlation to Coker. Moore will not beat out a healthy Thielen or Renfrow. Their ceiling has simply proved to be much higher.

Come on, man. A little play with his wife in public is not porno. It certainly could be considered low class, especially for those that are uptight, but who is going to really use that as indicative of being a "bad" person? "Berate local owners?" That's hyperbole at best. Tepper got a little "pissed" about the sign that referred to him being a meddling owner in 2023 per the restaurant owner, but the owner didn't say Tepper "berated" him or his business. The same restaurant put out a different message (on the same sign) in 2024 about letting the coach and GM pick. Tepper visited and asked about the sign, as well as removed the manager's Eagles cap from his head (you can see it all on video), but this was entirely lighthearted. Tepper even shook the man's hand. The owner said that Tepper is welcome back any time he likes. And then there's that phrase, "by all accounts," Tepper is a terrible owner and person. No, by your account. Fans want the Panthers to win, for sure. Has he been a bad owner? I guess if you look at a lot of his moves in regards to football. Is he trying to change his mismanagement? He is. I don't think everyone thinks that Tepper is a "horrible" person. He's an imperfect man that is perhaps hot-headed and inappropriate at times, but that doesn't rise to the level of "scumbag."

Tet or Legette...hmmm...Tet and Legette, it rhymes. Not quite Double Trouble (and a different position), but Tet and Legette could become a thing.

I heard that one day out of like five and was reported by a tweet from Joe Person. Unless Person was right there on them or heard it from the coach, I don't know how he drew his conclusion. That being said, I have become aware that regulation posts are 18½ feet wide, while the so-called skinny posts are 9 feet wide. That's a big difference. The skinny posts are supposed to help with aiming and accuracy when it comes to the regulation posts. This makes me feel a little better, however I don't see anyone consistently saying, "That would've been good on Sundays." It would be nice to know the specifics every time they practice. Of course, Fitzgerald was one for three on regulation posts last night. I saw it somewhere that the misses were 40-50 something yards away (as well as the make).

Jerry ain't taking the trade request seriously. The ball is in Parsons' court. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jerry-jones-dismisses-micah-parsons-trade-request-as-negotiations

He's an apt backup receiver as well, with ties to Dan Morgan and Dave Canales.

I will never get the Dan Snyder comparison. David Tepper has angered a lot of fans with purely business moves, for sure, and he's come off as somewhat of an asshole at times, but I don't see him as being a bad person at his core. I think that he's misunderstood, came in thinking that he knew best because of being a successful business man, takes things perhaps a little too personally regarding his team at times, but at the end of the day has done everything he has done out of a desire to win. I get being upset at Tepper. Fans are angry about his business decisions that have indirectly affected football operations. They are angry at his football decisions. Fans are mainly mad at him due to losing when you get right down to it. Snyder was really on another level. I may get some flack, but in some respects, Jerry Richardson was closer to Snyder than Tepper ever was. The sexual harassment if not outright impropriety. The racist sentiment. The toxic workplace. We have heard none of that during Tepper's tenure. Snyder was also "playing" with NFL money, so there's that. From a purely football perspective, he was a bad owner, but that's the only real comparison to Snyder, but I still believe that Tepper is going to turn that around even if many don't. It's been said here that there is "zero evidence" of change on Tepper's part, but that's just not true. If Morgan can see it, and guys like Pat McAfee, among others, can see it from afar, as well as report on it from other insiders, then it's pretty obvious that change is afoot. At the end of the day, at least in my opinion, if being a shitty owner based upon bad management and having a big ego because you're a successful business man is the major comparison to Dan Snyder, then Tepper is not special.

Hell, can Jimmy Horn even run block? I wouldn't think so.

Generally, I think it's a tad early for winners and losers, but I know why people do it. We're not going to jettison Coker unless we have a solid reason to do so (like an unexpected trade), but I don't see that realistically happening. In my opinion, people are blowing up Jimmy Horn way too much at this point. Veteran experience is still a key component when deciding who actually gets jerseys on Sundays. Not saying that Horn doesn't have a chance, but it's going to take more. Special teams is not being given to him, and he is not the only person that has participated in drills (and he has at least one drop). Let's chill on Horn a little bit. My default of Renfrow wasn't on the bubble. Despite many people thinking that he was JAG, I knew better (and intimated it from the beginning). His problem was health. That being said, his problem is still health, but he's in remission. Hopefully it's for a long time, but I still believe that he's a near lock at worst. Turk Wharton was brought in to rush, but he was also known to be an apt run stopper. Honestly, all the free agent acquisitions were signed with the run in mind. Now none have had the season that Derrick Brown had stopping the run, but he hasn't either, except for that one season. Turk Wharton just might have the complete goods though. This will be his season to show his wares. I can't even seriously say that Bryce will continue his ascension, and I surely ain't using preseason to make that proclamation. It's going to come down to what Bryce does in the regular season, and I believe that 2025 is going to go a long way towards defining Bryce's career. I hope for the best.

His resumé is solid. He stepped it up his last two seasons, I'll give him that. That's all though. He's in the big boy league now, and missing kicks in practice isn't going to give anyone fuzzy feelings. Accuracy, at all times, on the field and in practice, will make the "dogging" cease.

Dude, your sentiment and this link could've easily been put in the thread that we've been chopping it up in since Friday.

Glad to see you didn't count .500 seasons. Not counting the coming season, the Panthers have had a winning season a little less than 25 percent of the time. That's abysmal. Tepper's tenure has been a black hole for wins, and for fan sentiment, interaction and energy. Us fans should really be a miserable lot, but we are always looking for reasons to stay hopeful. Fan Fest is a reasonable distraction I guess. But, if you think like I do, The Panthers should be paying me to come to it.

Yeah, I was kinda thinking that. But...Bryce is still gonna have to earn his money, and he's going to have to be substantially better than his period after being benched, or the question will be if we want to pay him $50 per year (if you get my drift).

Gotta have a lot of white jerseys in the mix, as they are away games where home teams almost always choose colored jerseys. Now I don't know what happened week 5.

I don't know why, but thinking about this thread made me think of my son's remarks to me back in the spring. He was born in '98. I don't remember what we were exactly talking about, but I do remember his question. He said, "Dad, why out of all the NFL teams did you pick a loser?" He's low on the Panthers, man. He says that I make the same excuses every year. He doesn't believe in Bryce as a viable starter at all and basically thinks the last few games of last season weren't impressive and that Bryce is fool's gold. He liked Cam, but wasn't completely sold that he'd get us over the top. He even says things like "y'all" in reference to Panthers fans at times. Perhaps it's just to get on my nerves---make a statement---but maybe there's somewhat of a real disconnect on his part. But he does watch every game with me and roots for the team...but they haven't won anything of note in a long time. The rollercoaster at least use to rise sometimes--win one season, lose one season. Now, it's lose every season. The magic is lost and we haven't been able to find it. It's going to take winning, not just competing, but winning. That is the only way the Panthers fan base is going to be legitimately energized. And consistent winning will be the capstone of a strong, longstanding and viable franchise.

He'll be done with them until they give him that bag

And call me a Huddle homer, Huddle snob or whatever, but on other platforms, fans say some real stupid sh¡t. It's like they don't even know the team sometimes the sh¡t be so stupid.

I think that there's plenty of insight. There are still hardcore fans here that have been fans for years (decades in some cases), and have no shortage of insight---at least reasoned rationale or opinions. Being that many of us are older, it's going to take more than Fan Fest to get us excited. A preseason game is more exciting because at least I can focus on a "practice" from more of a macro perspective due to all the cameras and camera angles from the comfort of my living room. Get off my lawn. I'm really worried about the Panthers once Gen X and Millennials start disappearing. Not interested in the football? I think that is patently false. Preseason has barely started, and there hasn't been any real football for Panthers fans for about seven months. During the off-season, of course people are going to discuss drafts for a time and trades. Once the regular season begins, there will be a change in focus (like always). How long that focus lasts depends upon how well we are doing (or not), and if we are realistically in playoff contention. Otherwise, the off-season essentially starts a little early, but many still watch most of the games (if not all of them), and fewer some will voice their opinions and give insights regarding the play.

Nobody's exactly overjoyed with journeyman kicker Matthew Wright. Hell, he's played for six NFL teams during the regular season over five seasons. If he was the answer, why so many? He must be the kind of guy you take when you can't get anyone better. [Enter Ryan Fitzgerald] I was hoping that our rookie UDFA Ryan Fitzgerald was going to be a hit, being that he missed less than a handful of FGs his last couple of seasons, but yet and still made five FGs over 50 yards last season on only one miss in 2024. But, he's been missing a few, like Matthew Wright, on the so-called skinny posts and he continued missing at Fan Fest, going one of three. I'm beginning to wonder if he's a miss. Man, I didn't know that it would be such a problem to get a kicker with staying power after Jon Kasay retired. I am loathe to say this, because it's so easy to say in hindsight (and plenty of Huddlers do), but we should've just dumped Gano for Butker. Man, it would just be nice to sign a legit kicker who is here for at least a decade. Now, I'm afraid, it has become a thing. Sure, it's been a thing you say, but I'm surely disappointed because I thought that Fitzgerald would end it. Now? Who knows? https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2025/08/02/panthers-training-camp-kicker-ryan-fitzgerald-fan-fest-dave-canales/85494382007/

Honestly, in my opinion the Bryce argument is the best one against making an expensive acquisition. We don't know what's gonna happen or if we'll need that draft compensation. Still, for me, if it's DB and a pick, I'd have to consider it.