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Depends on perspective. I do think the talent is great. Whether T-Mac reaches his potential is another story, especially within these current circumstances. Some of the metrics are really good already (like average yards per catch). Even PFF already had him as the 20th or so best WR in the league.

I suspect Coker can be better, but I haven't seen much evidence of Horn actually being better. Nuanced route running should not be taken lightly. If Horn ever reached the highest height that Renfrow has, I will be surprised. Coker may be able to do it, but it's certainly not a guarantee. I realize that Renfrow has been out of the game a few years, but I have seen evidence of him being his old self. That's also no guarantee, but I'm not certain that we'll ever be able to see any of these guysbteach their ceiling under the current circumstances.

That's basically how I see it. He's obviously not washed. I've watched at least three vids showing how he was open and Bryce missing him. I've also seen evidence of him still putting people in a blender. But, if Bryce is going to miss him and Canales isn't going to use him, we may as well see what the young guys can do.

An uninspired passing attack that ranked 28th in the league through week 7 (and that has probably worsened through week 8). No receiver is going to play in this situation and light the world on fire, much less one where the HC never really wanted the receiver in the first place. For me, it's not about the receiver as much as it is about QB play and coaching decisions. Even our WR1 who is having a fine showing as a rookie is being held back by ineffective QB play and questionable target share.

Maybe we're the ones that are bananas. Ignorance is bliss.

I called "seven games" from the get-go, and we just may get there, but I didn't expect blowout losses. I expected to see some marked improvement, especially offensively, in losses and wins, and that's not necessarily what's happening.

Well, I think that s what people are alluding to...that they don't know how strong it is or how long that it will keep going in light of some of the technical issues. No one in this thread wants it to go away.

I'm scared that I will sign out by mistake because just like I forgot the password to my original account, I've forgotten the password to this one. I should probably write it down. Getting old. Anyway, I don't get password recovery emails or any emails even when I try to sign up. I guess the next time I'll be a "guest" if that works.

Well, now I know it's not just me. I don't know about passing around the hat, because there have been a Huddler or two that has offered their services for free.

I mean, that sounds good. I will say that I kind of cringe when people say we overpaid for for an O-line because if you want the best players, or even quality players on the O-line, you're going to have to pay. They were proven players, one arguably the best at his position in football, so you're going to back up the Brinks truck. I don't see it as overpaying as much as I see it shifting your priorities in light of your situation and market conditions. Now with an RB, those generally are easier to get and easier to replace, especially if you have a good O-line. We could've let Chuba walk and still kept rolling a lot easier than continuing to roll the dice on backups starting on the O-line. I can't even remember who was available, but I'd bet that there was someone available who could replace Chuba's production. That being said, we've been told in this thread that Chuba's contract was structured in a way that facilitates minimal pain if we decide to move on from him. If that's so, then it was smart and someone in the FO had a little foresight (and probably understands the PR side of things, as well as the pure numbers side).

OK, then (I haven't looked). If it's as you say, and I'm not doubting you, then why in the fug would we trade Rico if it's relatively easy to get rid of Chuba, especially when we have JB (at least in theory) returning at some point in the future as well? You gotta trade Chuba and extend Dowdle, right?

It would be just another signal of profound incompetence: a can't see the forest for the trees type of thing. But, then again, that's what happens when you can't see the forest for the trees. There was really no need to pay Chuba all that money when backs like Dowdle were on the market in the first place. I've always said that Chuba is better than many thought, but his specialty (if you will) is taking what the defense gives you, it was never really about being dynamic enough to be paid a big contract. We overpaid him in my opinion.

I mean, Dave just can't make the tough decisions, unless he's absolutely forced to. Don't tell me that Tepper is saying, "You play Chuba or else." The man didn't get where he is because he refused to hurt peoples' feelings. Sometimes I believe that Canales says, "We have to play this guy because he's the one that we invested in." He's just so damned thick-skulled. On the broadcast, Greg Olsen said something to the effect that "They're going to have to figure some things out," when comparing the averages between Rico and Chuba. He was being nice and politically correct. 4 yards per touch. What the hell should there be to figure out? And yet, Dave Canales is fúcking around. It's absolutely frustrating. When getting blown the hell out, put your other QB in, and if you're loathe to put him in, in garbage time no less, why in the fúck did you acquire him? I mean, I just don't know.

Of course he missed. We've had problems at QB and Kicker for a while. I remember when LT seemed like an insurmountable problem.

This is the meat of our schedule. Before the season, everyone had this game as a L. It was a fun October. Win-wise, we might even be ahead of schedule, but don't let wins against bad teams cloudy the truth about this team. I would argue that we're not ahead of schedule when it comes to QB play. I would argue that we're not ahead of schedule when it comes to overall defense (and I suspect that if we don't go back to a 4-3, we're going to take one step forward and two steps back). I'm not fooled, and you know what that should ultimately mean for the DC. But at least we have a DC, right? I'm not talking a Dave Canales either. We need a legitimate OC. Canales really needs to focus on being a good coach. He isn't one. His player personnel decisions leave much to be desired, his clock management is below average, and his situational play calling just sucks in my opiníon. He passed when we should be running and vice versa. Honestly, I haven't seen much development by him, by Bryce, by his staff. Hollow victories against bad, or at least incomplete, teams seems to be about the best a Panther fan can hope for. And Dan Morgan needs to really have a come-to-Jesus moment about the QB room. We re-sign and rely on players that have repeatedly, if not consistently, shown that they're not up to the task of playing solid football, much less putting the team on their shoulders and dragging the team to a win. Can we get a 4000 yard passer please? We are a bottom tier team flirting with mediocrity at least record-wise. Mediocrity responded, "Sike!" This is who we are.

Damn, Corbett is back in there? What the fúck?

I never wanted the Panthers to re-sign Dalton...at any point.

Is Dan that stupid? Well...

Well, I don't know how you can argue anything else. Dalton has sold us out every damned drive.

I was literally yelling at the screen, " Throw the damn ball!"

How does old ass Andy Dalton not have the ball out of the end zone when pressure is coming basically unimpeded? That is such a a bad sack.

Who woulda thunk it?

Canales is too conservative for that Basically he's a dumbass.

Canales is a C- play caller.

That didn't bother me as much as the subtle tiny hop when catching the ball. It's like, "Why?"