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I am not saying you can't sign a big time #2 receiver I am saying it might not be the wisest of decisions. Let's look at the lions. They have a big cap hit for a QB a WR and last year they went out and signed a big time 1/2 receiver. Golden Tate is a good player and is costing them quite a bit against the cap, a little over $5 million. Because of all that spending they lost Suh. Sometime this offseason we will get a big contract for Cam, next year Luke, the year after that KK or Star, maybe both. If you want to go out and spend a big contract on a 1/2 WR which one of those guys do you want to lose. Because you won't keep all of them.

When you only quote part of the post I guess it don't.

Younger mediocrity maybe. Otherwise to get a true #2, as everyone wants, we are going to end up spending at least 20 million. With about maybe 6-8 of that guaranteed. If you want more help with the secondary and a DE that can start, I just don't see how that can happen without doing some Hurney economics and screwing yourself in the future. In the draft sure, go with BPA. In UFA, I just don't see how you can afford another expensive WR.

The panthers can afford that? And get help in the secondary and get another D-lineman or 2 and get a 2nd TE? All of that with maybe $10 million in cap room. Hey I am all for it if they can I just don't want to go back to Hurney economics and spend every dollar you can now and fug the future up with contracts of Cam and Luke and Norman and at least 1 of either KK or Star coming up.

Everyone wanting us to get another WR I just have one question. Where is he going to play? Greg Olsen will be on the field on almost every play. Kelvin will see most of the snaps on offense. They are not going to cut Brown or Ginn now. Usually 4 or 5 receivers are active on gameday. Cotchery would cost us money to cut right now and as much as people like to say he sucks he doesn't suck he is just not great and doesn't have great speed to stretch a defense. I am not saying they won't get another receiver in FA or the draft. I think they will, but maybe not a big time #2 receiver that everyone thinks we need so bad. It would not surprise me if the only other receiver they get is like a 4th or 5th round draft pick like a Kenny Bell or Stefon Diggs or Tre McBride. And they might not be active all year unless someone get injured.

I don't care about RB ages or how good they are later in their career or how much they cost or anything like that. I don't think any of that had anything to do with this trade. This trade had all to do with ego. Chip Kelly's ego. Chip Kelly thinks his system comes straight from God and it will work no matter who is on the field. And any player that questions what he is doing can get off his team. He does not care how good they are or how much the fans like them or how much money they make. I don't think he can stand players with any kind of ego that is on his team. I think he will end up running all the veterans that have played in any other system but his and know that other systems work as well or better than his. Now I could be wrong about this, I am most of the time, but all the players that seemed to have a strong presence in the locker room are now gone. For good or bad. If he continues to do this kind of thing he is going to find it very hard to sign free agents in the future unless he really overpays them. No one wants to work for a guy who thinks he knows everything and his way is the only way to do it and every other way is wrong. Saban was like that, and that is why he went back to college. I think this will get interesting in the next year or 2.

The first franchise tag the panthers ever used was for a punter. Todd Sauerbrun.

Don't know about the speed but he did have the smallest hands of anyone at the Senior Bowl.

You can win with an ok group of LB. You can't win with crap at QB, ask the Bills or Texans or Bus or Raiders or Jets. Cam

I am disappointed in the huddle. When Derrick Anderson got a ticket for tinted windows it was like a 15 page thread. Greg Hardy gets arrested, believe the woman or not, everyone on this board overreacts, and we are only up to 44. Where is your conviction, you dedication. I know we could get this thread up to 60 pages if we just put a little effort into it.